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I think we need to get a jump on this, so those people who have to plan ahead to purchase one can do so.
Let us discuss and then lockdown a pattern/design, get it priced out and ordered. Buying a knife around the winter holidays is difficult for everyone.
My vote is for a jack/mtnman/barlow-esque pattern Large (or Medium)
Stag/Bone/Burl wood
One/two blades
I would prefer Carbon blades, but an exotic SS is fine.
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Burl wood, burl wood, and I'm in for 2 or 3 !
Brad T. said:
The Q-Tac is a really nice option. I would buy one w/bone or burl wood, something with more primary earth tones.
Guys I dont even know if this is possible because the knife has not actually be released yet but what would you think about something like Queens new Q-Tac with a more traditional handle, say a smooth bone?
Here is a survey question within a survey post.
How many want a knife for light to Medium duty use?
How many want a knife for Medium to heavy duty use?
I for one, am of the "medium to heavy duty" clan. I would like to EDC something other than a tactical from BM, Spyderco & Kershaw.
Not a primordial (or "clanical") question for me, but I would rather say "medium to heavy duty" too. A Q-Tac could do it.
Brad T. said:
Here is a survey question within a survey post.
How many want a knife for light to Medium duty use?
How many want a knife for Medium to heavy duty use?
I for one, am of the "medium to heavy duty" clan. I would like to EDC something other than a tactical from BM, Spyderco & Kershaw.
Hunters have a saying when prepping for a hunt, "Make sure to bring enough gun". I use that same logic about my knives before leaving the house everyday. That way I am hardly ever in a bind when a cutting instrument is concerned. I hardly ever require a Heavy duty knife anymore, but I carry one that can run the gamut from Light-Heavy duty use.
Bob Biggs said:
I would have to say light to medium, for unless i bought two i would not want to use the heck out of a special knife..
Queen Q-Tac looks acceptable to me
Brad T. said:
The Q-Tac is a really nice option. I would buy one w/bone or burl wood, something with more primary earth tones.
Guys I dont even know if this is possible because the knife has not actually be released yet but what would you think about something like Queens new Q-Tac with a more traditional handle, say a smooth bone?
The Remington Stag handled Norfolk Whittler I reffered to yesterday. Coupld use bone, wood or any handle material. I found a used one of these at a flea market and have found many great uses for each of the 3 different blades.
National Knife Museum said:
There are many good points to consider here…
Automatics are nice; personally I find spring assisted openers an even better choice though personally as I carry a first release SOG Topo-Meridian every day. That being said though there is something about a good old fashion whittler pattern such as a Norfolk whittler (the one foremost on my mind was a Remington) with a simple jigged bone handle and a main blade that locks (I will find a picture and post it later).
On the fixed blade front...historically fixed blades have not been the top choice for club knives for a multitude of reasons yet no one specific reason to be found. I personally enjoy a good fixed blade and have fond memories of learning Mumblty peg with my Grandfather with a fixed blade kinfolks clip point and I never leave home without my Camillus MK II with custom added Eagle, Globe and Anchor from my the uniform I wore attached to the hilt.
Yet another area to consider though may be a straight razor or perhaps a piece of quality usable kitchen type cutlery...maybe like a cleaver, paring knife or chefs type knife or depending on the manufacture a santoku is a popular kitchen design. They can be found in Carbon steel, Stainless, ceramic, Damascus...well you all know the options.
And yet another option to consider might be a multi tool. With today’s "survival" climate a useful, well thought, versatile, rugged, dependable multi tool might be a spiffy thought.
As for the "Is it too soon" question, I don’t think so at all...In fact I know of two clubs that already have the annual club knife in production already.
I hope what ever is confirmed for this fine cause will be MADE IN AMERICA . That should always be first and foremost in selecting a club knife for IKC what ever the design - material - etc.
I meant offcourse that if it's right hand only I'm not playing. It's not so much about the knife itself. It's just that I'm sick of knife manufacturers forgetting about lefthanded people in their designs. The nicest Spyderco's and some of the best looking benchmades use ambi locks....and yet the pocketclip isn't reversable. I'll not pour money into that kind of thing. I'm voting with my wallet, that's all.
As for the "made in the USA" thing. I don't think I have a dog in this fight. I care about:
1) Is the company a reputable company? (Ethical and honest as well as known for making good stuff)
2) Is the knife quality?
If the answer to both questions is yes and I have a budget for it then it could be made on the moon for all I care.
Brad T. said:
I would think that thumbstud would be reversible. if not, I could possibly fabricate something for you in my shop. But, let us not get ahead of ourselves. Besides, you talk as if "leftys" have actual rights.;-)
Alexander Noot said:Left hand only thumbstud mean no dice for me on that one. I refuse to support designs that won't cater to the "sinister" handed.
I've been following this discussion from a couple of paces back. Just watching the ebb and flow of ideas. The one thing that jumps right out at me is that it's a good thing we started this process so early in the year! Thanks, Brad, for getting the snowball started down the hill!
I think we can throw Whittlers out because we had one of those last year. The most recent suggestion of the Q-Tac appeals to me. But the locking blade would eliminate many of our members who live in countries where locking blades are verboten. I also like the idea of a Mountain Man. But there again we have the blade length to consider. Same with the Daddy Barlow, another knife that I would love to have as a Club Knife.
So therein lies the rub. Trying to select a knife that will be legally acceptable for ALL members.
Keeping that in mind, I would like to throw my suggestion into the mix. And that would be a Harness Jack with a master blade of 3" or less and a secondary punch blade.
Here is a pic of my S&M Harness Jack to give you an idea of what I'm talking about...
That's my $.02 for the moment. It will be interesting to see how our conversation evolves from here. Keep the ideas coming, gang!
Alexander,
I can't find any reviews or a reverse side picture of the Q-Tac, so you may be "right". I assumed that there was not a pocket clip as the advert did not mention one and it is being sold with a Lanyard cord.
Alexander Noot said:
I meant offcourse that if it's right hand only I'm not playing. It's not so much about the knife itself. It's just that I'm sick of knife manufacturers forgetting about lefthanded people in their designs. The nicest Spyderco's and some of the best looking benchmades use ambi locks....and yet the pocketclip isn't reversable. I'll not pour money into that kind of thing. I'm voting with my wallet, that's all.
As for the "made in the USA" thing. I don't think I have a dog in this fight. I care about:
1) Is the company a reputable company? (Ethical and honest as well as known for making good stuff)
2) Is the knife quality?
If the answer to both questions is yes and I have a budget for it then it could be made on the moon for all I care.
Brad T. said:I would think that thumbstud would be reversible. if not, I could possibly fabricate something for you in my shop. But, let us not get ahead of ourselves. Besides, you talk as if "leftys" have actual rights.;-)
Alexander Noot said:Left hand only thumbstud mean no dice for me on that one. I refuse to support designs that won't cater to the "sinister" handed.
Great and thought provoking responses to this discussion. I feel inadequate, but will add my 2 cents as well. I am ambivalent about which knife. These days I tend to favor using, and I use all of my "exotic" steel fixed-blades. 98% of the folders in my collection have never been used because I have multiple examples of the patterns I collect. Therefore, for me, a folder makes a good "club" knife because it is likely I will never use it. But, if I am going to spend $100.+ for a knife, I want to use it. So, a fixed-blade would be preferred. A whittler for the club knife also sounds great because I want to use a whittler. However, it doesn't fit my behavior of fixed-blade and multi-tool on my belt.
So, my suggestion is a "carving jack".
1. I don't have one.
2. While I wouldn't carry it on my belt, I would have it handy and use it.
3. Cost would probably be under any of the "exotic steel" knives out there; fixed-blade or folder. And, don't we all have an example of every "exotic steel" produced?
4. More members might actually use it instead of putting it in a display case.
5. It's like a whittler, but more.
Jan,
You'll need to create more columns in your spreadsheet. I would then suggest before your meeting with the Daniels, create another poll with the top 5 patterns and let us rate them in order of preference. Then do it again with the top 2.
It has become obvious that most will not be ecstatic about the final choice, but I am sure we all can be happy with a fine example of quality cutlery. No matter the decision,
BTW
Ron,
Darn you for making me undecided again. That Harness Jack is would be in my Top 3 of 5.
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