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Permalink Reply by Halicon on January 5, 2011 at 12:17

Yeah, those are spare parts assembled into a knife. A flashlight handle, a plastic protector for garden furniture (?), a brass toe for some furniture or tool and then the blade probably filled with sawdust and then glued together.

 

It's pretty much impossible to get a maker out of this unless someone has seen a similar design and dealt with the maker himself. That's not me though.

 

I see a potential disaster on this knife though. At the portion where the blade meets the brass, unless that part is secured really well it will risk snapping it completely if used like a reverse grip dagger (think icepick and then lateral motion after you stab something). Just a heads up I wanted to extend, it might be no problem at all though.

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Permalink Reply by john a shavel on January 6, 2011 at 5:38

Hey Guys.Thanks for the imput. I guess my real question would be,what 's with the spring and rubber plug/vanes?This knife is made very well.It seems like it was made with a purpose other than getting rid of some house-hold junk.BTW,I have many "odd" knives that I would like info on.This site seems to deal with mostly new knives. Will my info seeking on old knives "bug" anyone.

john

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Permalink Reply by Gary Kennedy on January 6, 2011 at 7:11

 Try Hero's knife , made by some one in the military  tried to copy a modle 18 Randall   This is a guess .

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on January 6, 2011 at 10:25

I'm w/ Don .. the blade is too long to fully retract into the handle .. I'm thinking more of a stage prop .. where the blade collapses into the handle when force is applied .. but is fully extended otherwise.

 

.... just a WAG.

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Permalink Reply by john a shavel on January 6, 2011 at 13:36

Hey Dale. No not a prop. Real steel,sharp,false edge sharp. Brass is solid inside the handle.The rubber vane thingy unfurls to make spiral dart like vanes. Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by john a shavel on January 6, 2011 at 13:37

Gary Kennedy said:

 Try Hero's knife , made by some one in the military  tried to copy a modle 18 Randall   This is a guess .

Hi Gary. Well if it's a copy ,does Randall have one with springs and wierd vanes?Hey thanks.

john

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Permalink Reply by Halicon on January 6, 2011 at 16:07

Hmm, have you tried looking for a makers mark on the tang of the knife? The model 18 is a good guess, I'm guessing someone liked the design and mimicked it. It is a very nice "pick" design if you put your thumb on the plastic cap, classic Applegate/Fairbarn design.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Kennedy on January 6, 2011 at 21:21

John go on line and look up Randall then look at there Model 18 . now take in consideration that yours is  a little premative compared to it . This my be where they got the idea ?

john a shavel said:

Gary Kennedy said:

 Try Hero's knife , made by some one in the military  tried to copy a modle 18 Randall   This is a guess .

Hi Gary. Well if it's a copy ,does Randall have one with springs and wierd vanes?Hey thanks.

john

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Permalink Reply by john a shavel on January 7, 2011 at 5:48

Hi Halicon. No marks at all. Yes model 18 could be it's base(copy).But down to nitty-gritty,what's with the spring and vanes.Thanks for you thoughts

john

Halicon said:

Hmm, have you tried looking for a makers mark on the tang of the knife? The model 18 is a good guess, I'm guessing someone liked the design and mimicked it. It is a very nice "pick" design if you put your thumb on the plastic cap, classic Applegate/Fairbarn design.

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Permalink Reply by john a shavel on January 7, 2011 at 12:20

Hey Gary.OK ,I accept that someone tried to somewhat copy a #18. I guess the vanes and spring will remain a mystery. Thank you

john

Gary Kennedy said:

John go on line and look up Randall then look at there Model 18 . now take in consideration that yours is  a little premative compared to it . This my be where they got the idea ?

john a shavel said:

Gary Kennedy said:

 Try Hero's knife , made by some one in the military  tried to copy a modle 18 Randall   This is a guess .

Hi Gary. Well if it's a copy ,does Randall have one with springs and wierd vanes?Hey thanks.

john

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Permalink Reply by Halicon on January 7, 2011 at 13:57

I agree with Don, the vanes elude, can't see it at all on this pic. Is the sheath's last button detachable? If not it is most assuredly a knife based on Applegate/Fairbarn's thinking. False edge for a light strike to make the target react and then the icepick hold clinch and stab from behind in the back (classic WW2 scene on 'krauts').

 

Perhaps the spring inside the handle was something the maker added after he had experienced the handle? A hollow handle without any tension from within to keep it sturdy feels awkward.

 

Or, remove the butt cap and turn it into a rifle sword or spear? Just a guess though.

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Permalink Reply by john a shavel on January 8, 2011 at 6:14

Hey guys .Ther is a second shot showing the vanes and spring. I'll shoot it again later. Much thanks

john

Halicon said:

I agree with Don, the vanes elude, can't see it at all on this pic. Is the sheath's last button detachable? If not it is most assuredly a knife based on Applegate/Fairbarn's thinking. False edge for a light strike to make the target react and then the icepick hold clinch and stab from behind in the back (classic WW2 scene on 'krauts').

 

Perhaps the spring inside the handle was something the maker added after he had experienced the handle? A hollow handle without any tension from within to keep it sturdy feels awkward.

 

Or, remove the butt cap and turn it into a rifle sword or spear? Just a guess though.

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