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what the number 5 means?

I just got a nice old fruit knife. It was given to me as a gift from my daughter who lives in England. It has a pearl handle and some hall marks. A lion, stands for England, I gess. A crowns is a symbol for England. TM is the maker's mark and means Thomas Marples. But there is a hallmark that I dont known what it does mean: 5
Does some one can help me on that?

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Permalink Reply by Pedro Eugênio Cabral on June 11, 2012 at 22:20

I correct myself: the crown is the city mark - Sheffield

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on June 12, 2012 at 11:46

I know some were marked by the silver inspector or what ever you call them. Could this have something to do with the weight of silver?

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Permalink Reply by Smiling-Knife on June 12, 2012 at 14:45

Hi. The lion is the symbol for sterling silver (.925), the crown is for Sheffield. The last mark is the date mark. These were typically letters inside different shaped shields. If you can post a photo of the mark that will help to pinpoint the year.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on June 12, 2012 at 18:18

Wow guys, this is interesting. I would love to see a pic of it

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on June 12, 2012 at 18:46

I would to Miss Jan, I tried to give a quick answer so that someone would have responded to his request, but Smiling Knife has so much more knowledge than me on the subject. He really gave alot of good info but "Pedro"needs to give us a picture to help to continue with more info.

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Permalink Reply by Pedro Eugênio Cabral on June 12, 2012 at 23:04

I m travellig so I cant send right now the picture of the knife. I ll send it next friday, ok?

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Permalink Reply by Pedro Eugênio Cabral on June 12, 2012 at 23:06

I`m travellig so I am not able to send a photo of the knife right now. I`ll do it nex friday, ok?

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Permalink Reply by Pedro Eugênio Cabral on June 14, 2012 at 21:30

I just posted photos of it.

Jan Carter said:

Wow guys, this is interesting. I would love to see a pic of it

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Permalink Reply by Pedro Eugênio Cabral on June 14, 2012 at 21:31

I just posted 2 photos. Thanks

Smiling-Knife said:

Hi. The lion is the symbol for sterling silver (.925), the crown is for Sheffield. The last mark is the date mark. These were typically letters inside different shaped shields. If you can post a photo of the mark that will help to pinpoint the year.

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Permalink Reply by Pedro Eugênio Cabral on June 14, 2012 at 21:32

I just posted pictures of the mark and knife

Robert Burris said:

I would to Miss Jan, I tried to give a quick answer so that someone would have responded to his request, but Smiling Knife has so much more knowledge than me on the subject. He really gave alot of good info but "Pedro"needs to give us a picture to help to continue with more info.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on June 14, 2012 at 22:00

That's a good picture and to me it looks like a 5. what do you all think?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on June 14, 2012 at 22:42

TM (T W Matthews [ L ] ) end 18th c./beginning 19th c.
TM (Thomas Morley [ L ] ) beginning 19th c.
TM (Thomas Meade [ D ] ) 19th c./1st half
TM into a rectangle (Thomas Merry II [ L ]) entered 1731
TM into a cut corners rectangle (Thomas Marples [ B ][ S ] ) end 19th c./ beginning 20th c.
T.M into a shield, two pellet over and below (Thomas Mason [L] ) entered 1733
T.M (Thomas Mynd [ B ] ) end 18th c./ beginning 19th c.
T.M (Thomas Millington [ B ] ) 19th c./1st half
T.M (Thomas Marsh & Co [ B ] ) 19th c./2nd half
T.M into a cut corners rectangle (Thomas Marples [ B ][ S ] ) end 19th c.
T.M into a sort of shield (not identified [ S ] ) 1861