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Permalink Reply by Billy Oneale on March 10, 2016 at 21:14

I will be interested in the review. I have a few Boker Plus and find them to be decent knives.

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on March 10, 2016 at 21:25

I figured .. @ < $16 .. I couldn't go wrong. Being from A.G. .. I've come to expect a certain level of quality. Realistically .. for <  $16 .. I'm buying a "user". I've only the older Boker .. w/ the tree's. It will indeed be interesting to see what the new Boker is like.

Billy Oneale said:

I will be interested in the review. I have a few Boker Plus and find them to be decent knives.

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on March 11, 2016 at 18:27

I am also going to be interested in this one.  Each blade having it's own lock back should be interesting

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on March 11, 2016 at 19:05

Camillus made a double lockback trapper .. which I have. This is a stock pic .. I'd have to dig pretty deep for mine .. pictures would be awhile.

Anyway ............ ......... Camillus took a slightly different approach.

Note: The recessed areas to release the backspring .. are offset from one another.

It certainly added to the safety ..but.. detracted from the ease of unlocking. The other backspring right next to it .. impeded the depressing of the desired backspring & release of the open blade.

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Beyond the general build & fit-n-finish .. that's a practical aspect I'll be critiquing.

I'll dig the Camillus out for a side by side comparison.

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on March 11, 2016 at 19:35

Case did one also but the blades were at opposite ends

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on March 11, 2016 at 21:18

Oh my .. a double lockback muskrat .. that's sweet, Jan.

Jan Carter said:

Case did one also but the blades were at opposite ends

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on March 16, 2016 at 21:03

Well .. I received it Monday.

However .. have been able to do little more than unpack it.

I did the once over. Fit'-n-'finish is quite acceptable for the price.

In fact .. it's easily as good as I've seen on knives twice the price.

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The double lockback feature is secure & easy to use .. easier than I recall the Camillus being ..which.. I cannot locate at the moment.

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The bolsters & caps are ever so slightly dovetailed .. need to post a pic.

Presumably .. to help hold the scale material from warping ..or.. pulling away from the frame.

I'd noticed this approach on another knife just recently .. a Rough Rider.

Same subtle angle.

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This knife is heavier (3.7 oz)  & larger (4.125 closed) than I usually EDC. So I'll likely just be taking it out into the field .. occasionally.

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Given the price .. I bought this as a user.

Blade steel is specified as 440 High Carbon stainless.
The blade is etched "440 STAINLESS"

SO0ooo .. it's either 440A or 440B .. most likely.

I can find nowhere on the web where 440HC is definitively identified.

It's widely discussed ..but.. is NOT official nomenclature relative to the 440 series of SS.

It is a marketing term.

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The knife arrived sharp. Quite sharp !!

The manufacturer's rated hardness is 58 +/- 1 HRC.

I purchased this as a user ..sooo.. I sharpened it.

A good quick way to get a feel for the blade hardness.

I used a 1000 grit diamond whetstone.

I instantly turned a slight wire edge over. Not something I see happen with Queens PH-D2.

Queen's rated hardness for their PH-D2 is 58.5 +/- 0.5 HRC.

Somebody is fibbing .. imo.

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Anyway .. will get it out in the field now that warmer weather is present .. and do a little actual cutting.

I'll see ..'n report.. how it stands up there.

Dale.

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on March 16, 2016 at 22:02

D ale,

I am curious.  440HC yet the knife is made in china.  440 is not usually a knife steel produced there.  I would have expected it to be a 440 equivalent like 5Cr15MoV

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on March 16, 2016 at 22:15

No doubt .. it is. This "440HC" is a marketing term .. not a real steel specification or type !!!

Jan Carter said:

D ale,

I am curious.  440HC yet the knife is made in china.  440 is not usually a knife steel produced there.  I would have expected it to be a 440 equivalent like 5Cr15MoV

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on March 16, 2016 at 22:37

420MoV^* ~ 5Cr15MoV^*

440A ~ 7Cr17MoV

440B ~ 8Cr17

440C ~ 9Cr18Mo*

440HC returns .. no results.

!!! .. I trust this source .. !!!

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on March 17, 2016 at 20:41

Great source and yes, very well trusted.  I will be interested to see how the steel holds up to hard use