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Permalink Reply by Rome D. Rushing on January 19, 2011 at 8:40

I believe that Buck has realized that people are not real receptive of Buck knives made in China.

I think that one of the main reasons that they reloacated was that it allowed them to offer a lower

priced American made Buck .  I thought that I had read that most of Bucks knives were now made

in America.  All we can do is try to buy the ones made in the U.S.A.  and let the ones made in China

sit on the shelf.  I know this cuts into their operating funds but it will show that made in U.S.A. means

something to us.

Permalink Reply by James Cole on January 19, 2011 at 9:26

Chinese made knives are what you sell in the gas station lot.

I don't want Chinese made anything let alone knives.

Permalink Reply by Freddy Ramos on January 19, 2011 at 14:17

Thank you for joining in the discussion. I don't know if I agree with you that Buck has realized people are not receptive to Buck Knives made in China. I wrote to buck & got a response that basically says they are fully commited to buck knives being made in China because it helps offset any losses they have. And I can understand that, but to me if your going to pay the extra cost to drive in a Mersedes Benz you want a Mersedes Benz. The Buck Knives made in China are just like the knives you find at flea markets.

Rome D. Rushing said:

I believe that Buck has realized that people are not real receptive of Buck knives made in China.

I think that one of the main reasons that they reloacated was that it allowed them to offer a lower

priced American made Buck .  I thought that I had read that most of Bucks knives were now made

in America.  All we can do is try to buy the ones made in the U.S.A.  and let the ones made in China

sit on the shelf.  I know this cuts into their operating funds but it will show that made in U.S.A. means

something to us.

Permalink Reply by Freddy Ramos on January 19, 2011 at 14:18

Exactly!

James Cole said:

Chinese made knives are what you sell in the gas station lot.

I don't want Chinese made anything let alone knives.

Permalink Reply by Trent Rock on January 19, 2011 at 15:38

Rome D. Rushing said:

I believe that Buck has realized that people are not real receptive of Buck knives made in China.

I think that one of the main reasons that they reloacated was that it allowed them to offer a lower

priced American made Buck .  I thought that I had read that most of Bucks knives were now made

in America.  All we can do is try to buy the ones made in the U.S.A.  and let the ones made in China

sit on the shelf.  I know this cuts into their operating funds but it will show that made in U.S.A. means

something to us.

 

If you don't buy Chinese made Bucks knives, doesn't that affect the people in the front office in Post Falls, ID? Like the secretary and accountant?

If it wasn't for Chinese made Buck Knives, they would have went out of business a few years ago..IMHO

 

This is from 9-22-2009 on another forum===>

"There will likely always be some products produced offshore, i.e.gadgety ones such as our "tool type" products as imafritz says. We are actively bringing back from China some of the curent products, such as the Bantams and 325/326 Gentlemens series framelocks. Some products will not be brought back but allowed to run their normal life cycle and die. Our company direction is to actively pursue new products with the intent of them being built in the US, and source them only where it is not at all practical to build them in the US.

Bill Keys
Director of Manufacturing
Buck Knives, Inc"

 

 

Permalink Reply by Daryl Sawatzky on February 7, 2011 at 17:12

I had the opposite experience with Buck Knives made in China. I bought two knives at the same store... a rubber handled American made Buck, and a Chinese made 'Whittaker' Buck. The precision and blade grind was vastly superior on the Chinese made Buck.

I know it's hard to believe for the ultra-patriotic American, but China is not a backwards third-world country. They have technology just as advanced as any western nation, including the good ol U.S.of A. (at the same time, the USA has poverty stricken, jobless, moneyless counties, struggling for survival). The Chinese are innovative and smart, and have already contributed much more to western civilization than you seem to be willing to admit. China is not only centuries, but thousands of years older than the USA. They perfected items EONS ago that Americans have only 'reinvented' recently... like good knives and swords.

 

The racist attitudes I see on this forum are absolutely stunning to me. If you want to 'Buy American' because you think it's better for the economy, that's your perogative, but if you seriously think that an American man can handle a grinder better than a Chinese man, then you need to give your head a shake, because that's BS. There are Chinese working in American  Buck factories for pete's sake! A Chinese man can take pride in his work, and an American man can F^&* the dog, wasting his employers resources. Frankly, I think we all know people like that... my American made Buck knife is so shoddy it's an embarrassment. Thank you so much to the American that ground THAT blade.

Permalink Reply by Freddy Ramos on February 7, 2011 at 20:36

Hay Daryl. First I want to thank you for joining in and expressing your opinion. But I want you to know that My opinion was not based on racism. I have nothing but love and respect for all races and cultures throughout the world, including China. The point I was trying to make was that the only reason Buck Knives is starting to make knives in China is to sell them cheaper & I for one don't mind paying more for an American made Buck knife. I just feel that since Buck always made their knives in the USA it should stay that way. I don't want them to make their knives in Mexico, Guatemala, France, The UK, or any other place just for that reason. If it was that they always made their knives in other countries then fine. I own some beautiful Chinese made knives. Just not the Buck Knife I bought.

As far as China goes I agree. They have a long and beautiful history that goes back at least 5000 years. As a matter of fact did you know they where mummifying before the Egyptians? And they did it better! And yes they are world wide major producers of almost everything we use on a daily basis. I have no issues with any of those things. And if you ever visit China, like I did, you would see a vast and rich culture of diverse people. Hard working proud people. But I knew this already. My wife is Chinese.

 
Daryl Sawatzky said:

I had the opposite experience with Buck Knives made in China. I bought two knives at the same store... a rubber handled American made Buck, and a Chinese made 'Whittaker' Buck. The precision and blade grind was vastly superior on the Chinese made Buck.

I know it's hard to believe for the ultra-patriotic American, but China is not a backwards third-world country. They have technology just as advanced as any western nation, including the good ol U.S.of A. (at the same time, the USA has poverty stricken, jobless, moneyless counties, struggling for survival). The Chinese are innovative and smart, and have already contributed much more to western civilization than you seem to be willing to admit. China is not only centuries, but thousands of years older than the USA. They perfected items EONS ago that Americans have only 'reinvented' recently... like good knives and swords.

 

The racist attitudes I see on this forum are absolutely stunning to me. If you want to 'Buy American' because you think it's better for the economy, that's your perogative, but if you seriously think that an American man can handle a grinder better than a Chinese man, then you need to give your head a shake, because that's BS. There are Chinese working in American  Buck factories for pete's sake! A Chinese man can take pride in his work, and an American man can F^&* the dog, wasting his employers resources. Frankly, I think we all know people like that... my American made Buck knife is so shoddy it's an embarrassment. Thank you so much to the American that ground THAT blade.

Permalink Reply by Freddy Ramos on February 7, 2011 at 20:38

I don't know about that. China produces a lot of other things that we use everyday that is excellent quality.

James Cole said:

Chinese made knives are what you sell in the gas station lot.

I don't want Chinese made anything let alone knives.

Permalink Reply by Daryl Sawatzky on February 8, 2011 at 18:57

My comments were certainly not directed towards you, the original poster of the question.

It was a more general comment about how every discussion I've been a part of here has come back to the quality or craftsmanship of US knives compared with the rest of the world. There is no way you can generalize such a thing. There are skilled and unskilled people in every country trying to make a better knife. But there is a contingent out there that still can't wrap their heads around that. To buy anything not made in the USA is tantamount to treason.

Freddy Ramos said:

Hay Daryl.

Permalink Reply by Daryl Sawatzky on February 8, 2011 at 19:13

It sounds like you were looking at fake Chinese bucks, and they probably were made in Pakistan. As I said before... The Chinese made Bucks I've bought through official Buck channels were of excellent quality. Better than [some] US made bucks.

I was amazed to see another lines of knives that are copies of famous knives but don't have the names on them. I bought a CASE replica for sh1t$ and giggles, but they also had Buck 119 and 110 fakes. THOSE were cheap Chinese knives. Definitely not in the same class as Buck Chinese knives. Here is an example.

Permalink Reply by Freddy Ramos on February 9, 2011 at 14:59

I agree with you. I bought a Case knife that was made in America and that knife sucked! The craftsmanship was not good at all. But then I have a Colt bowie that I'm sure is made in China and I love it.

Daryl Sawatzky said:

My comments were certainly not directed towards you, the original poster of the question.

It was a more general comment about how every discussion I've been a part of here has come back to the quality or craftsmanship of US knives compared with the rest of the world. There is no way you can generalize such a thing. There are skilled and unskilled people in every country trying to make a better knife. But there is a contingent out there that still can't wrap their heads around that. To buy anything not made in the USA is tantamount to treason.

Freddy Ramos said:

Hay Daryl.

Permalink Reply by Ugly Old Guy on August 28, 2017 at 19:33

From my experience the 37x, 38x, and 39x Buck knives are of excellent quality, and, they carry the exact same forever warranty as their US made knives.

Daryl Sawatzky, I have a question for you.
Do you own a computer, or tablet, or cell phone/"smart" phone? What about a television or home stereo system?
If you do, it was not made in the USA.
If you own a post 1990 automobile, regardless of brand, less than 50% of the parts and components were made in the USA. Most of the parts and components were made in Mexico, South America, Overseas (Europe and Asia) and Canada.
Are we "guilty of treason" for buying or leasing a "Big 3" auto brand?
What about buying an Apple iPhone or iPad? Those are not made in the USA. I am not aware of ANY cell phone (to include "smart" phones), computers, or tablets ... or hearing aids or radios, for that matter, that are made in the USA. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of ANY home electronics that have been made in the USA since the late 1970's to early 1980's.
Yes. I buy Buck knives (of the 300 series only) made in China. I support Buck by buying their products that I can afford.
Just like I support an American company when I buy a Rough Rider or Marbles knife.
Do or will I buy a new Case knife? No.
I cannot see spending 4 times as much for say, a Case large Stockman or a Canoe, than what a Rough Rider large stockman or canoe costs. Not when the Rough Rider meets and exceeds the quality of the more expensive Case. (not to mention the Rough Rider and Marbles will hold an edge longer, and take a finer edge to begin with.)
If it is "treason" to buy a non-USA made product, then everyone is guilty of treason. The fact of the matter is, the USA no longer makes a lot of products we all use in our everyday lives. We lost our manufacturing advantage when NAFTA became law. (You can thank Bill Clinton, and the then Democrat held House and Senate) for that.