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Herder Knives/Don Carlos Knives/Pikas knives/Constant Knives

1623	Jürgen Herder hardens swords during the Thirty Year`s War (1618-1648).
since 1650	Production of knives, mainly for the dutch market.
1727	In order to make Herder-knives unique, "Pic-As" is beeing registered as the oldest trademark in Solingen.
since 1800	Herder knives are introduced in the Malay Archipelago by the Dutch East India Company.
1802	Trademark "Tjap Garpu" (Fork Brand) still a famous brand in the Near and Far East.
1850	Expansion in South America and Southern Europe.
1925	Developement of a new stainless steel in cooperation with domestic and foreign partners.
1927	Trademark "Constant" for knives with blades of stainless steel.
1931	Trademark "Don Carlos" for professional knives and scissors made of high carbon steel.
since 1955	Entering of new markets in Europe, Near and Far East and North America.
1995	Move to the new company building.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on September 22, 2014 at 17:14

They say the the factory made knives from 1727-1945 when the factory was bombed out by the Allies. The factory inventory was bought out by the President of SMKW.

In 1872, young up-start Robert Herder, descended from a line of steel tempering workers in Bergische Land, decided to venture beyond tempering into the craft of knife-making. He moved the operation to Solingen, Germany, and founded Windmuehlenmesser. Four generations later, his family still runs the company, and their knives are still made as they were over 100 years ago. The company's sweet and simple motto: "Good knives are made by hand."

ALTHOUGH THIS WAS FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE THERE IS SOME FURTHER INFORMATION THAT CLEARS UP A FEW THINGS***SEE BELOW

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on February 24, 2015 at 9:16

Herters Catalog

Attachments:

Herters-1979-Catalog-Page_83.pdf, 2.7 MB

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on November 25, 2017 at 12:37

A few weeks ago I was contacted by Dennis, he is the US importer of the Herder brand (see catalog above). He gave us an opportunity to clear up some misconceptions from the information we have seen on line and have listed above. Stephan Burghaus, the owner at Friedr. Heder Abr. Sohn sent us this essential information on who is who now and how the companies differed previously. Here is what he sent me

"If you have any questions about our companies or some "Solingen" history please let me know! unfortunately there are many falsifications out there with the brand of Solingen which are definitely not made here.

ok lets start with a little "herder" history

The name HERDER is an old German word and means Hardener (someone who hardendes things)

this name is still very common here in Solingen as in old days around 1600-1800 many families were working in the knife business.

Thats why you will find many companies with this name today.

The most known are:

Richard Herder Abr. Sohn(today its a part of the Gedore Tool group)

Friedr. Heder Abr. Sohn (thats our company)

Robert Herder (todays brand is the Windmill)

Diogenes Herder & Sohn (we bought this brand a few years ago as the company closed)

El. Herder (we bought this brand a few years ago as the company closed)

All these companies have been independent knife producer and in old days there has been a lot of competition and fights about Brand rights all over the world....

so as you wrote "the young startup Robert herder continued the business" unfortunately is not right.....

The company robert herder is still run by the herder family

Friedr. herder Abr´. Sohn today is run by my family.

We still have a hugh archive of old documents and there is much much more in the city archive of solingen.

So if you want any further information about anything please do not hesitate to contact me."

thank you

Stephan

Permalink Reply by Shawn on August 27, 2018 at 0:17