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Would it be appropriate to begin a discussion for the sole purpose of providing a place for people to post a photo or two of a knife that that are having a hard time identifying?

Once a person adds to the thread posting photos and any information that they can of a knife they need help ID'ing, then the entire iKC community should be able to see it and hopefully be able to assist in the identification of the knife.

I personally have a couple of knives that I would greatly appreciate that type of assistance, but will refrain from posting anything further, until I receive some sort of confirmation from those of higher standing than myself.

Thoughts, feedback, comments, and suggestions are always welcomed!

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OK - let's get this started. I inherited a few remaining small pocket knives from my dad. Never one for the more modern EDC's, he always enjoyed the little pen knives. Always small and light, he would often forget he had one in his pocket when traveling, leading to a vast collection being donated to TSA.

This is one...a little toothpick (I think that's the style)

What I Know

  • It’s old and retired from active service
  • Obverse tang stamp "PAT No5", maker stamp obscured by bolster
  • Knife is 4 1/2" open, 2 1/2" closed
  • Celluloid scales are very fragile, some cracking already occurred
  • Carbon steel blade; stainless steel bolsters
  • SWAG at circa 1950's
  • Good blade snap, no wobble

What I want to Know

Based on the bullet info above and judging the best you can from the photos, I would like to know the following:

  • Estimate year of knife manufacture? (no SWAG)
  • Who made it?
  • What, in your opinion, is the value of the knife? (“as is” please)

Please feel free to ask me questions, request additional photos, or whatever in order to assist you in your evaluations. Please also feel free to correct my understandings with additional facts, as I want the best info I can get.

Thank you for your comments and assistance – it is greatly appreciated!

Oh - and here is another one...

What I Know

  • It’s old and retired from active service
  • No tang stamps of any kind
  • Knife is 5" open, 3" closed
  • Celluloid scales 
  • Can't tell if blade is carbon steel or stainless
  • SWAG at circa 1950's
  • Good blade snap, slight wobble

What I want to Know

Based on the bullet info above and judging the best you can from the photos, I would like to know the following:

  • Estimate year of knife manufacture? (no SWAG)
  • Who made it?
  • Model?
  • What is the blade steel?
  • What, in your opinion, is the value of the knife? (“as is” please)

Please feel free to ask me questions in order to assist you in your evaluations. Please also feel free to correct my understandings with additional facts, as I want the best info I can get.

Thank you for your comments and assistance – it is greatly appreciated!

Excellent start!  Than you Lars!

I am not familiar with either of those at this time, but I will certainly try to find something to help.  Hopefully we can get the full assistance of our iKC members to help ID these knives.  I would love it if Jan is suddenly inundated with requests to join this group.  :)

That first one is a little feller!  and the quarter is a good one!

Lars -

Regarding your small toothpick style pocket knife.  All of the little sized toothpicks that I can find so far were made by Hammer, Imperial, Rough Rider, or Case.  The Case knives were ½" too long even in there small size.  I think that the Rough Rider's are too new.  So that leaves the Imperial and Hammer.  All of the examples that I can find had maker's marks stamped into the ricasso of the blade.  I did find one that looks to be very similar to yours on ebay, but it has a couple of patent numbers stamped on it as opposed to what I believe is a pattern number (5).  From what I was able to find, the Imperial toothpicks in that size were made from 1946 to 1956.

I did find discussion of 'toothpicks and ticklers' right here on iKC started by Tobias.  Perhaps he may be able to shed some additional light on this one.  Here is a LINK to the discussion.

I certainly wish I could find something more definitive for you!  But I do hope that some of our other members may be able to share much better information than the scraps that I was able to find.

Lars,  Probably the first test to check the blade material is a simple magnet.  Carbon steel tends to be magnetic whereas most stainless steels are not.  This is not completely foolproof, but is a good place to start.

Good stuff Kevin - Thank you.

In my own investigation, Hammer is my prime suspect as well. I have some other Imperial knives, and even with the bolster impeding some of the script, it's easy to determine if it's Imperial or not...which is not the case here. So Imperial slips on the suspect list, but totally written off. 

Thanks for your diligence, and for starting the thread - 

Kevin D said:

Lars -

Regarding your small toothpick style pocket knife.  All of the little sized toothpicks that I can find so far were made by Hammer, Imperial, Rough Rider, or Case.  The Case knives were ½" too long even in there small size.  I think that the Rough Rider's are too new.  So that leaves the Imperial and Hammer.  All of the examples that I can find had maker's marks stamped into the ricasso of the blade.  I did find one that looks to be very similar to yours on ebay, but it has a couple of patent numbers stamped on it as opposed to what I believe is a pattern number (5).  From what I was able to find, the Imperial toothpicks in that size were made from 1946 to 1956.

I did find discussion of 'toothpicks and ticklers' right here on iKC started by Tobias.  Perhaps he may be able to shed some additional light on this one.  Here is a LINK to the discussion.

I certainly wish I could find something more definitive for you!  But I do hope that some of our other members may be able to share much better information than the scraps that I was able to find.

Lars,

I spent quite a bit of time trying to find anything similar to that single blade black and red flake celluloid knife.  This effort was to no avail.  So far I have not been able to find ANYTHING that resembles that one.  You aren't supposed to stump the community so quickly!  LOL!

Hopefully a member will find this thread that will be able to help us out more than my feeble attempts.

I did find another example of that first knife that also implied a Hammer manufacture.  So my confidence in that first ascertation has improved a bit.

Ha ha ha! Nice...it's not often I leave the likes of you or others stumped! And that's certainly not the point of this thread...we'll save that one for DLKG's game of "Guess what knife this one is?"

I do appreciate the time you're spending on it. One thing is for sure...we both are learning  what these are not.

For kicks and grins, here's one to add to the fray - 

What I Know

  • It’s retired from active service, but still very functional (not yet fragile)
  • Obverse tang stamp is INOX; Reverse tang stamp "Italy" - just a whiled guess here, but I think it's European. :-D
  • Mother of Pearl Celluloid scales 
  • INOX in this context will mean the blade is stainless steel
  • SWAG at circa 1970's
  • Good blade snap, no wobble
  • Nice solid bail

What I want to Know

Based on the bullet info above and judging the best you can from the photos, I would like to know the following:

  • Estimate year of knife manufacture? (no SWAG)
  • Who made it?
  • Model?
  • What, in your opinion, is the value of the knife? (“as is” please).I have a good idea as to its value, but I am interested in what the knife gallery thinks...I'm not a folder expert.

Thanks Kevin, and to all who weigh in on these...

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