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An old Aluminum frame 65 and its story

Many of you know a great reason to go to shows and get an opportunity to speak with some of these folks is the knowledge they can pass down. This last show I had the amazing opportunity to have a table beside Fred Fisher. He is one of the trio of Queen Historians, he has contributed to Sargents books and an avid collector. Better than that he and his wife Linda are just as nice as can be and will share info if they have it!

We are fortunate, these days we have so many resources right at our finger tips! Trust me when I say a good bit of this is because of the show circuit back in the day. Like many of the industries that have been around as long as knife manufacturing the info on knives was passed along verbally. In the 70's & 80's as knife shows grew in popularity, so did the capturing of this information and stories.

I wrote down the info for this one but it is still in my suitcase (which has not come home yet). Let's see how good I do by memory.

This knife was made only once, in the 20's. It had a poured aluminum frame with an enclosed back spring! Rather ahead of its time I think. Think about standing a knife mold on its head and pouring the liquid aluminum in, sure sounds like an easier and more effective way that milling each part to me. Well, while you have that image...think about air trapped at the bottom of that pour. Now you can imagine the reason 1000 of the frames were made and 300 of them disposed of.

Some like this beauty, made the grade and were assembled and sold. The records do not exist however to tell us how many of them may have actually become a knife.

Go to shows folks! If you see a knife in someones case that interests you...ask the questions. Whats great is that some of these guys bring displays, knives they are proud to share info on. You never know, the next face to face discussion you have may lead to your next knife challenge!

Tags: 65, Cutlery, Queen, aluminum, frame, knives, of, past, the

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Permalink Reply by Dan Lago on April 23, 2015 at 9:12

Fred's display of Barlows and Big Chiefs using a similar aluminum frame are great! I had no idea how innovative they were. Keep those displays coming Fred. Thank you!

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on April 23, 2015 at 10:00

Freds Display

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on April 23, 2015 at 10:01

This is what the backspring looks like on these

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on April 23, 2015 at 12:10

wow some truly great pics here in this dicussion. You have to love what you can learn here on iKC. Sometimes it amazes even me!

Permalink Reply by Duke Biscotti on April 23, 2015 at 12:51

HI: i bought a 65S from a guy on eBay. i also bought 13 other Queens from him that he bought from a hardware store that had gone out of business 40 years ago. all 14 knives were pristine and all had winter bottom BONE handles. i'll post some pics of some of them one day. here is the 65 S .

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on April 23, 2015 at 13:02

Duke that is incredible, what a great looking Queen.

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on April 23, 2015 at 13:13

Duke,

YES! Thats the barlow version done in the same manner and my how nice yours is!!

Permalink Reply by Frederick Fisher on April 23, 2015 at 20:52

Jan, thank you for all the cudos given to me.

Correction: We feel these knives were made in the 60's not the 20's.

It was great to finally get to meet you. Linda and I enjoyed you being next and us and were able to get to know you.

Fred and Linda

Permalink Reply by Duke Biscotti on April 24, 2015 at 6:51

Yes i agree. i pulled the patent sheet for the patent number on the knife and it was dated in the 1950's/

Duke Biscotti

Frederick Fisher said:

Jan, thank you for all the cudos given to me.

Correction: We feel these knives were made in the 60's not the 20's.

It was great to finally get to meet you. Linda and I enjoyed you being next and us and were able to get to know you.

Fred and Linda

Permalink Reply by tim payne on April 24, 2015 at 7:50

your Queen alumunimum frame barlow from the 20s, is an awesome addition jan. beautiful knife!

Permalink Reply by tim payne on April 24, 2015 at 7:54

thanks for sharing fred's one-of-a-kind display of Queen Big Chiefs & Barlows Jan.

Jan Carter said:

Freds Display

Permalink Reply by tim payne on April 24, 2015 at 8:00

congrats on all your wonderful Queen additions duke! your queen barlow is an awesome piece.

Duke Biscotti said:

HI: i bought a 65S from a guy on eBay. i also bought 13 other Queens from him that he bought from a hardware store that had gone out of business 40 years ago. all 14 knives were pristine and all had winter bottom BONE handles. i'll post some pics of some of them one day. here is the 65 S .

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