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Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 22, 2014 at 21:43

Another whittler is RR891  It is a yellow comp Gentleman's Whittler

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 22, 2014 at 21:49

Another series to remember is the Pink Lemonade

Rough rider has at least three series of knives in Pink bone

Pink Lemonade, Hot Pink, and For The Cause (Breast Cancer)

My Pink Lemonade Canlitter

RR 836

Thes 2 1/4 inch knives also come in Orange Smooth Bone (another handle material I failed to mention)

and Red Jigged Bone

Orange is RR383

Red Jigged is RR311

Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on October 23, 2014 at 0:41

First gen stag was kind of ugly,  they improved considerably with the second gen...

http://iknifecollector.com/photo/albums/rough-rider-stag-second-series

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 23, 2014 at 11:51

The First and second generations share the same pattern number.  So it really come down to the stag and the shield used.

This is also a good point.  As JJ said, Rough Rider has about 15 or 16 different whittler patterns.  However they make these patterns in various handle materials and in different series.  This means you might come acroos anywhere from 2 to 20 or more whittlers built on the same frame and with the same blade configuration but with different handle materals, bolsters, blade etches, tang stamps, and shields.

The same goes for  every other type of knife.  Some patterns are well represented while others a re sparsely represented.

For instance the Camp knives are only available in red or amber jigged bones.  The early release has a "propeller shield" the latter release has a "bomb shield"

The Amber Jigged is: RR533,  The Red Jigged is:  RR573.  The ones below have the early "Propeller Shield"

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on October 23, 2014 at 12:02

They did start a line of Veterans Rough Riders.

Permalink Reply by Dave Steiner on October 23, 2014 at 13:32

I've found the following handle materials:

Black Bone - Are there any others besides the RR973 Sm Stockman, I like this stuff
Green Smooth Bone
Honeycomb Pearl
Light Root Wood
Stainless w/Etching
Swirl
Turquoise
Yellow

-ds

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 23, 2014 at 15:28

You have black jigged bone and black smooth bone.

Then there is midnight swirl (A composition material)

Painted Desert (also Comp)

Twisted Bone

Diamond Jack

Very few folding  knives were made in light root wood,stainless steel, and G-10

There were only a small number of knives that would be considered "Tactical" Folders  These were relegated to the Benchmark line and later the The Colt line offered by SMKW.

The Coal Miner series is a done in black smooth bone and black jigged bone.  As a series goes, it has a great variety of patterns but the only theme that ties it together is the pad stamped blade.

Top knife is the Trapper

From left to right, Hawkbill, half hawk, medium stockman, small lockback, locking sodbuster (work knife), Electrician knife

Utility knife w/wrench

The Boxcar Whittler (RR1044)  is also in Black Smooth Bone.  It is one big whittler!

Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on October 23, 2014 at 15:34

Always wanted Rough Rider to do a whittler series like they did with trappers. Wrote to Knives Live, some years back. Suggested the sawcut bone and double ringed and pinched bolsters to finish them off.
Would have been a nice looking set, if they would have.

Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on October 23, 2014 at 15:45

I Keep one of the boxcar whittlers in my truck.

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 23, 2014 at 16:06

I forgot about the

Lime Green Smooth Bone

Paws and Stripes  (a Trapper and a Canoe, I think)

A series of knives in White Smooth bone with biblical quotes  (about 6 or 7 patterns)

Dated White Smooth bone knives for Graduates. (pattern seems to change every year)

Christmas Trappers (one or two every year)

The Candy Cane Christmas series.

A trapper commemorating the killing of Osama Bin Laden

A Don't tread on me Series (yellow Comp, I think)  Just a trapper and a stockman)

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 23, 2014 at 16:28

Known WSB Rough Rider Knives

 

While I can't say for certain, I believe the list below identifies every folding knife that Rough Rider has issued with a White Smooth Bone handle. Rough Rider white smooth bone knives have also been used for numerous laser scrimshawed knives produced for Smoky Mountain knife Works such as annual graduation knives, #1 Dad or # 1 Son, Religious themes, the celebration of Bin Laden's death, Paws and Stripes, etc. 

On a side note, as the numbers show, it took a long time for SMKW to actually release the Trapper in plain WSB handles. When the trapper was finally released, the image used on the SMKW website showed that of the Frost Trapper (plain bolsters) instead of the actual Rough Rider Trapper with ringed bolsters!  Sorely lacking in White Smooth Bone is the  half hawk, the locking sodbuster, Camp knife, Electirician Knife,  Medium and large toothpicks, the fish knife,  and the wide variety of Whittlers and trappers  that Rough Rider makes. Still it gives you an idea of the variety of patterns available from Rough Rider.

• RR003 -  3.5 inch Stockman
• RR020 -3 inch Lockback
• RR040 - 3.75 inch traditional  Copperhead
• RR 045 - 3 5/8 Canoe
• RR050 - 3 5/8 Congress
• RR 055 - 2.75 Mini Canoe (Butterbean)
• RR 060 - 3 inch  Small Toothpick
• RR067 - 5 inch lockback folding hunter (Similar to Buck 110)
• RR 100  -  3.5 inch  mini-Trapper
• RR104 - 3.75 inch Doctor’s knife (Spear and Pen blades)
• RR108 - 3.5 inch Whittler (Carpenter style, no coping)
• RR 112 - 2 7/8 inch Peanut
• RR 116 - 3 inch Baby Sunfish
• RR 120 - 4.25 inch Large Sunfish
• RR 127 - 4 inch Muskrat
• RR 130 - 3.75 inch Sowbelly Stockman
• RR133 - 3. 5/8 inch drop point lockback (similar to Case Mako)
• RR135 - 3.75 inch lockback (similar to Buck 112)
• RR 137 - 3 inch lockback [Diablo]
• RR 139 - 4.5 inch Elephant  Toenail.
• RR142 - 5 7/8 inch Deer Slayer (folding hunter)
• RR 145 - 5 7/8 inch Coke Bottle (back pocket knife)
• RR148 - 3 1/8 inch Small Lady Leg
• RR 151 - 5 inch Large Lady Leg
• RR 164 - 1 inch key chain knife
• RR165 -  1 1/8 inch keychain knife
• RR 166 - (Unknown, may not exist.)
• RR 167 - 1 5/8 inch keychain knife
• RR 192 - 3.75 inch clip point lockback
• RR 198 - 3 3/8 inch Standard  Barlow
• RR 206 - 3 7/8 inch Stockman (Serpentine)
• RR 211 - 3.75 inch Stockman (Swell Center)
• RR 248 - 3.25 inch Stockman
• RR 254 - 3 5/8 inch Six Shooter
• RR 577 - 4.5 inch  Marlin Spike (Rigger)
• RR 1035 - 5 inch Big Daddy Barlow
• RR1144 -  4 inch Hawkbill
• RR1202 - 5 3/8 in Toadsticker (melon tester)
• RR 22034W -4 1/8 inch Trapper

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on October 23, 2014 at 21:22

The Stoneworx Series originally consisted of twelve knives.  Since its inception, three more knives have been added bringing the total to 15.  The last three may or may not come in the Stoneworx Box.  I know the neck knife didn't when i purchased it.

The Brother hood knives and other knives that look like U.S. military campaign ribbons are often lumped into the Stoneworx line.  Below is the 15 knives that are true Stoneworx.    Note that the last three knives made have the stones arranged in the same pattern as the original stoneworx canoe.

 

1. RR908 3 5/8 in. Congress
2. RR909 - 3 5/8 in. Canoe  
3. RR910 - 3 7/8 in. Muskrat
4. RR911 - 2 7/8 in. Peanut  
5. RR912 - 3 in. Sunfish
6. RR913 - 3 1/4 in. Small Stockman
7. RR914 - 3 7/8 in. Round End Stockman
8. RR915 - 4 3/8 in. Square End Stockman
9. RR916 - 3 in. Small Toothpick  
10. RR917 - 5 in. Large Toothpick  
11. RR918 - 4 1/8 in Standard Trapper
12. RR919 - 3 5/8  Whittler
13. RR1163 - 5 in. Large Lady's Leg
14. RR1164 - 2 7/8 in. Lock-back Barlow
15. RR1238 - 4 in Neck Knife  (small fixed blade)

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