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Comment by Jan Carter on April 25, 2013 at 15:08

This is one of my favorite places to come on iKC.  The amount of knives that come through here and the amazing amount of knowledge that is utilized to identify and help is fantastic  

Comment by Smiling-Knife on April 25, 2013 at 14:09

Found this in an earlier thread that may help to identify the maker of your knife Chuck.

 

Reply by Jim Child on February 13, 2011 at 17:27

Update: Mostly through contributions made by actual Russians in the Blade and British Blade Forums I've learned that the "funky chicken" is actually a rooster -- the logo or mark of the October Works which had been located in the city of Vorsma in the province of Nizhny Novgorod located about 370 km east of Moscow and apprx 1,000 km west of the Ural Mtns. The October "company" produced all manner of tools during the years of the Soviet Union.

Comment by Chuck Parham on April 18, 2013 at 18:28

Toby, In answer to your question, No. The German knife and the Russian knife did not come from the same person.

Comment by Chuck Parham on April 18, 2013 at 18:02

Toby, Here's a clearer image of the "swan" and the symbols on the knife handle.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on April 18, 2013 at 16:19

With the origin being determined as Russian, I'm really curious if the one impression is that of Swan wearing a crown, as in the Swan Princess in the Russian folk tale of Tsar Saltan?

I assume it could also be a knight's helmet but to me it looks  like a swan  standing on its feet, flapping its wings and wearing a crown.  Having been chased by a flapping swan, I kind of know what they look like!  LOL

Comment by Tobias Gibson on April 18, 2013 at 15:50

World War I is what happens when three inbred first cousins become the leader of the most powerful nations in the world.

Chuck, out of curiosity did this knife and your Russian knife come from the same person?

Comment by Ron Cooper on April 18, 2013 at 15:13

Are there any tang stamps on the blades of this knife, Chuck? Cool looking knife, btw.

Comment by Chuck Parham on April 18, 2013 at 15:06

The unidentified one is Karl von Einem. He was General of the German 3rd army in WWI. Led many campagnes and headed up the demobilization of the German army at the end of the war. Died, 1934. Thanks for your added research Toby!! I thought it may have been to commemorate those leaders but your idea of promotional propoganda seems more likely.

I also agree that the Crowned Prince's remarks probably landed him in lots of hot water.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on April 18, 2013 at 14:55

Your knife is a who's who of German and Austrian Leaders during WWI.

Prinz Heinrich  was in charge of the German Baltic fleet,

KrohnPrinz Rupprecht is crown prince of Bavaria and was in charge of the 6th German Army (Lorraine)

Krohn Prinz Wilhelm is the last crown prince of Germany also commanding the 5th army.  He was the son  Kaiser Wilhelm II.  The royal family line was the Hohenzollern.

Franz Josef was emperor of the Austria Hungary Empire.

Hindenburg was supreme commander of German Army.

Erich von Falkenhayn was Chief of Staff of the German Army for the first two years of WWI.

I can't make out the other name.

If the knife is an original it was probably released during the early part of WWI for propaganda purposes. 

At the beginning of the War, Crown Prince William made a very prophetic comment about WWI which probably got him in trouble with daddy.

He said:

"Undoubtedly this is the most stupid, senseless and unnecessary war of modern times. It is a war not wanted by Germany, I can assure you, but it was forced on us, and the fact that we were so effectually prepared to defend ourselves is now being used as an argument to convince the world that we desired conflict."

—Crown Prince Wilhelm

His army fought at Verdun.  After the first battle, he declared the whole battle senseless and tried repeatedly to stop any further attacks because he saw the futility of trench warfare.  Too bad the guy wasn't allowed to rule after WWI and later backed the guy with a funny mustache. Too bad also that when he recognized Hitler's true nature, there was little he could do to overthrow him.

Comment by Chuck Parham on April 18, 2013 at 14:26

I'd like to get an idea when it may have ben made and exactly what it depicts. Famous Bavarian leaders? WWI heroes? People who wore very stiff collars?  LOL

 

Believe me, there is a lot of junk here too!! The pieces I have been showing have been found through diligent foraging. Most sales I go to yield a waste of time and gas. The sales where knives are advertised almost always prove to be cheap imports that I would buy for paperweights. I look at the sales and ask questions like did they ever have any cutlery. I found a matching carving knife an fork at a church flea market that are late 18th century wrought iron. Fifty cents was an exceptional price. Sometimes you just have to ask if ,even though they don't have any knives for sale, they know of anyone who have some they might be willing to sell. It's a real mixed bag as far as what you get but you guys already know this. All I can say is diamonds are out there. You just have to dig for them.

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