June, 1945, the Battloe of Okinawa raged on. Many force in Europe were looking at dedeployment to the Pacific theater. It was beleived that it would takes at least another 18-24 months to invade and conquer the Japanese Mainland. The optomist felt the war might end by Christmas 1946 (another 18 months) but some anticipated the war going to the fall of 1947!
On August 6, 1945, the US dropped a bomb on Hiroshima and then on Aigust 8, a second bomb dropped on Nagasaki. The Empire of Japan Surrender to Allied force on September 2, 1945 and suddenly peace broke out!
Hundereds of companies, including Camillus went from war time production to peace time production as literally hundred of thousands of government contracts were cancelled. Knives that were ready for delivery were left in stockpiles as the gov't refused to receive them. This also left a back-log of parts sitting in bins that were to be used for now cancelled government contracts. As Camillus was a business and is, they did what busiensses do. They sold the stuff in other markets.
The government on the other hand, saw the stockpiles of supplies that they had already taken hold of, determined how much they might need in the future and destroyed the rest as waste!
As Camillus went back to peace time production they started ad campaigns with such phrases as "It was your best friend in the fox hole and now if can be your hunting buddy!" and the like. The back-log of blades and other knife parts continued to be used for years after the war, being sold on the civilian market. Thus, you were just as likely to get a 4 line Camillus as a three line Camillus in the post WWII years well into the 1950s.
Later, when the US. government went to fill contracts for TL-29s and other knives, Camillus and others used existing stock that met the government specifications so many civilian electrician knives were sold to the Government as a TL-29. So a Camillus Pattern #27 Electrician knife is the same as the Government TL-29.
The information I have came from a variety of sources including an interview of the Camillus Factory Historian.
peter force said:
@tobias ..dont quote me exactly i think you said something about extra parts and not all stamped tl-29 knives making it to the military and extra parts...again no where near exact quote..LOL..
i understand extra knife parts and blades and ect happen all the time.. but do you think even with an exact number ordered a company would make extras?.. i was just wondering?? i know our goverment can be wasteful..{shhh} but i know most companies do not like to be. so i could see of course camillus using extra pieces and so forth... but wouldnt the goverment expect exactly the amount they ordered and paid for?.. and if so why would CAMILLUS stamp extra handles??... again im pleading ignorance here as i have yet to study military knives much at all or how orders were handled,if extra knives maybe were made..things like that... ..so i dont know if companys did make extras or a surplus just in case??.. any info would be awesome!!...
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entry!..LOL!!
TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THIS IS..its not just a random posts all over FB with IKC links..THIS IS MUCH BETTER......what you can do if you own the page..is called PIN!... so no matter how many other posts ARE POSTED AFTR THE PINNED POST..they dont come beforre th PINNED IKC POST WILL REMAIN AT THE TOP OF MY KNIFEWERKS PAGE!!..i have PINNED THE IKC POST and message and LINK.. at the top of the page.
tommorrow i will do it on my my smaler FB page. KNIFEWERKS for some has gotten out of hand due to a lot of foreign knives and so forth...but we are INTERANTIONAL!!!
THE PIN THING IS WHAT WILL WORK im hoping very well!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/knifewerks/#!/groups/knifewerks/ how many entries into this contest will this one post add up to.since i will have to keep it monitored..daily!... LOL!!... anyway im just glad i have a place with so many members to show the link.. i will add it to a few more places including my other KNIFE FB PAGE!... -hope this helps-...i should get an almost direct number of how may noty 100% join bu i will know how many at least used the link! hey please feel free to join KNIFEWERKS as well.lots and lots of production knife sellers,makers,ectect. and it would not at all defeat the purpose of joioning IKC becuase once on their you can hlp spread the woprd if you want!!…
he notables:
R. Lee Ermey
Yes we call him Gunny and he has served as the spokesman for SOG for some time appearing in some videos.
R. Lee Ermey, Full name Ronald Lee Ermey is a retired United States Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant, Drill Instructor and actor. Wikipedia Born: March 24, 1944 (age 68), Emporia, KS
Then we have Les Stroud:
Les Stroud (b. October 20, 1961, in Mimico, Ontario[1][2][3]) is a Canadian musician, filmmaker, and survival expert best known as the creator, writer, producer, director, cameraman and host of the television series Survivorman. Stroud became a full-time wilderness guide, survival instructor and musician based in Huntsville, Ontario. Les works with Camillus Brand knifes.
And the at one time ubiquitous Bear Grylls
Edward Michael "Bear" Grylls (born 7 June 1974) is an English adventurer, writer and television presenter. He is best known for his television series Man vs. Wild, known as Born Survivor in the United Kingdom. In July 2009, Grylls was appointed the youngest ever Chief Scout at the age of 35. Bear endorsed a lines of knives for Gerber.
And a new entrant:
Mykel "Myke" Hawke (born November 29, 1965) is a retired U.S. Army Special Forces officer.[1] He is best known for his role in the Discovery Channel series Man, Woman, Wild, where he co-stars with his wife, Ruth England, a British television presenter and actress. He is the author[2] of several books, most recently Hawke's Green Beret Survival Manual. He holds a Bachelor of Science degree in biology from New York University and a Master of Science degree in psychology from the University of California, Santa Barbara. As a combat veteran Hawke was an enlisted Green Beret and later commissioned as a captain in special forces. He fought rebels and trained UN peacekeepers in war torn Africa and did combat search and rescue during the drug war in Colombia. Also of note he has earned black belts in Aikido and Judo. Hawke has teamed up with Tops Knives to create his custom survival knife, the Hawke's Hellion 2020, a machete like tool with a sharpening tool, firesteel, whistle, and survival saw.
Haley Heath knows hunting and all her years of experience have given her an expert perspective on what gear a woman needs in the field. Our famous ERGOHunter handles were modified and re-curved to fit smaller hands and provide a safer grip, while a finger guard at the bottom of the blade was added for increased safety. Buck is pleased to introduce the knife series that Haley trusts to serve her outdoor needs. With a variety of blade steels(S30V,12C27Mod Sandvik and 420HC) there is a choice for every woman.
(As appeared on a back cover ad for Buck Knives...... Knives Illustrated magazine)
So those are the spokesman endorsers! Here is my question. do these people make you want to buy the knives they endorse?…
jpeg of the Popular Science ad from 1951, at the bottom of this post.)
This one was dang near mint. Everything works great. It even had the razor blades!
The tip at the bottom of the tool is used for popping open vacumm sealed lids. You can also use for paint cans and such. The long blade has a scaler, cap lifter, flat head screw driver/hook degroger, and a reel wrench. The item still had the original paper work.
With the compartment open showing the blades wrapped in a rubber like sleeve, medicine vial and band-aids. The ruler is three feet long. Also visible is the hook for fish weight scale.
The unique tool along with a hula dancer lure, my R. Murphy Fisherman's Pal and Imperial fish-knife with a beverage can opener.
Below is the advertisement that appeared in Popular Science.
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Added by Tobias Gibson at 18:28 on November 19, 2014
ith toenails in them, etc.
Reply by Scott King on May 2, 2009
This is from a Funsten Brothers Trapping and Equipment Catalog from 191? I hate to guess, but if you see there is an Ulster knife shown and the tang of the top knife is also Ulster, so it might be an Ulster Toenail. I don't know if I am seeing right, but there appears to be an "..AN" on the tang stamp. How about that for some toenail trivia..
Here's the page:
Reply by Scott King on May 2, 2009
One of the most famous- From Hardware Age Magazine- A Case Brothers Ad. Taken from Harvey Platts Book- Knife makers who went west. My all time favorite.
Reply by Scott King on May 2, 2009
From a 1904 Case Brothers Catalog-
From a 1903 Gold Cross Coffee catalog offering Case Brother knives for a certain number of coupons redeemed. Pictured is the pearl handled toenail, but the fine print at the bottom of the catalog states only the bone is available.
From a Napanoch catalog
Reply by Scott King on May 2, 2009
1906 Youth's Companion Magazine- Napanoch Toenail
September 10, 1902 Edition of Youth's Companion
Reply by Scott King on May 2, 2009
Levine's Guild to Knives and Their Values, 4th Edition, published 1997
1914 Thomas Manufacturing Toenail ad
1906 French catalog
Here's some of the translation with some French words.Couteau Boule-dogue Models- This knife especially to satisfy the desires of the sportsmen, motorists, hunters and of roads the people who test the need for possider either out of pocket, or in the satchel has tools, a knife of a solidite has any test for all uses. 8 c/m, larg. 27m/m, and a blade long canil kind, 5 c/m, width 15 m/m, out of steel guaranteed superior, sleeve horn of stag natural with broad protective ends copper nickel zinc alloy long total 15 c/m, weights 175 gr.. Model noureau, of garantic manufactureD Lemaire provided me this ad- here's his notesDear Sir,Please enclosed find a picture of a "french elephant toenails".The french name for this pattern is "bouledogue". It is sold at least sincethe 1900'.A catalog dated 1906 from "La Manufacture FranÁaise d'armes et cycles deSaint-Etienne" , a famous mail order company, shows this kind of pattern with 2blades (a big one and a little "pen" one) or with a big blade and a punch .Sincerely,D Lemaire
Case Brothers Manufacturing Company, Gowanda, NY Box marked 8250 (pearl)
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an growing up in Kingsport, Stewart Taylor haunted flea markets in search of World War II German daggers and Samurai swords. In the last 37 years, he turned that love of collecting into a multi-million dollar business, Taylor Brands LLC.
Today, Taylor Brands is the official manufacturer and wholesale distributor of Smith & Wesson and Schrade knives and sells to 65 countries. Taylor started selling knives while still a student at Emory & Henry College. At the time, he ran a small ad in "Coin Magazine" selling a Coca-Cola bottle-shaped knife that cost him $10 each. He sold the knife for $25 and, within a week, made $150.
Back then, that was pretty good money for a college student. Taylor decided to see if he could get the knife produced at a reduced price. He wrote to 16 U.S. and three Japanese knife manufacturers. Not one of the 16 U.S. companies responded. One Japanese manufacturer offered to produce Taylor’s $10 knife for 50 cents apiece.
Taylor always had an entrepreneurial spirit and, at age 16, purchased a house on Elizabeth Street in Kingsport. During college, he made enough money to repay the $5,000 home loan. He used that collateral to borrow $5,000 from First American Bank to secure production of his knives in Japan.
He graduated from Emory & Henry in 1974 and started his knife business in 1975. Taylor had initially wanted to follow in the footsteps of his older brother, Cary, and go to law school. "I wasn’t accepted to law school. I guess things work out for the best because I really enjoy what I do. We have fun creating products," he said.
It took six months for production of the knives. Taylor, and his wife, Shelia moved into a duplex in the Cherokee Village and set up a mail-order business.
"I would sit on the floor in the living room of our duplex wrapping packages," he said.
Taylor admitted there was a time when his family was actually concerned about him and his ability to provide for a family. "Quite seriously, there was a time when my family really worried about me and whether I could take care of my wife," he laughed.
Once their first child, Morgan, was born, Shelia and Stewart moved to a larger home with Stewart continuing to work from home. A year later, he moved to his first office location on Center Street and hired his first employee, Nancy Shipley.
"That was a big step for me," he said. "It was a big job to think about hiring somebody and having the responsibility to make payroll and pay their salary. You remember those really important first steps."
Taylor Brands would move twice more before the company moved into its current 163,000 square-foot facility on Eastern Star Road. That was five years ago and, initially, the new facility was slated to be 50,000 square feet. While on a visit to a Chinese manufacturing facility, Taylor learned the company had landed the AutoZone account that had 1,000 stores nationwide. The same year, Taylor Brands acquired Imperial Schrade Knife Company, which gave the company two strong trademarks - Uncle Henry and Old Timer.
The company holds patents on 30 knives, many of which were Taylor’s creations. In fact, the company’s three most successful knives were ones he created by "accident." One was the Swat knife that sold millions. The second was a small Scrimshaw knife with animal scenes on the handle. According to the Taiwanese, Taylor holds the record with this knife for the most imported knives ever from Taiwan.
The third was a knife, called the Shark, which Taylor redesigned from an older Japanese pattern. Of all the knives created by Taylor Brands, the Shark holds the most meaning for Taylor because the capital received from that knife not only kept the company afloat but enabled Taylor Brands to grow.
Today, Taylor Brands concentrates on more established knifes like the assisted-opening knife. The company recently invented the "first-ever" assisted-side-opening knife that will be released in a couple of months. In addition, the company designs and creates a lot of commemorative knives, such as the 175th Anniversary of the Republic of Texas and the 150th Anniversary of the Civil War.
As a community-minded citizen, Taylor donates many of the company’s prototype knives for auctions at local charity fundraisers. He additionally supports the "Wounded Warrior" program and has taken knives to Alaska and the former Walter Reed Army Hospital.
Taylor is surprised daily at his company’s success.
"I think we have the best family of employees that anyone could have. Our employees are what make this company," he said.
While he considers his employees family, Taylor is fortunate to have his three sons - Morgan, Carson and Russell - working in the business. When asked if he ever envisioned the company’s success, Taylor replied, "There is no way on this earth that I could ever imagine that my business would turn out to be what it has.
"I’m the guy who used to be at the flea market, selling knives and shaving one hair at a time," he laughed.
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fashioned spanking, let me give you a little backstory to fill in some gaps.
Like many knife collectors, I read the knife mags. The knife manufacturers generally do a good job of running ads in those publications, promoting their newer products. Sure...the ads generally include some hype...such is the overblown habit of modern marketers. In any event...the purpose of the ads is to motivate collectors to buy the new products. Gettin' the basic picture? Good. Read on...
WR Case & Sons has been advertising their Tony Bose Back Pocket knives. Though I consider Case's quality control to be horribly erratic (to such an extent that I now label Case as "The Bi-Polar Knife Company"), the ad gave me the itch for one of these blades.
I like wood...so I ordered up one of the Ebony handled Back Pocket knives. Got the blade in this week's mail. For all collectors, part of the fun of collecting is in seeing a new blade for the first time. So...you can imagine that I was excited to open up the spiffy box holding my new Back Pocket knife! So...here's how the unboxing went:
* Knife is nicely wrapped in it's paper. The paper exhibits absolutely no evidence of tearing. The knife should be "pristine". And it was...
* Take the knife out of the paper. While the blade is still in the "closed" position, I examine the exterior of the handle. Immediately, I notice machining marks near the lanyard hole. I'm a woodworker and so I know what I'm looking at. Blood pressure starts to rise. Not too high though because the exterior metal surfaces are all nicely polished and fit cleanly with the wood handle scales.
* I go to open up the blade and see that the dipsticks at Case have provided me yet another knife where the freaking blade isn't centered! The blade is right up against the shield-side liner. Blood pressure rising and acerbic commentary is being vocalized at booming levels. I'm built like a bear...so you imagine how loud I was.
* I open the blade...and discover that the backspring is decently strong! Hooray! The Bi-Polar knife company at least got that part right! I also see that in spite of the blade being pinched to the left, it isn't actually rubbing against the liner and getting all scratched up.
So....NOW WHAT?
A) I do like the Back Pocket design A LOT.
B) I am going to kick Case's posterior and see if they will send me a new knife that wasn't made on a Monday or a Friday by people that were hung-over.
C) I'm going to see if I can contact Tony Bose and let him know what I'm seeing from Case.
Case: I doubt very much that you are reading this...but just in "case", I'm going to give you some tips:
* Put some heat on your Quality Control people. Or...fire them and replace those pinheads with people who care.
* Oh...maybe you ought to motivate your quality control people with an incentive program. You jackwagons!
* It may be that the person handling your Human Resources needs to be sent packing. Don't hire kids that don't care, older people that don't care or any other people that "don't care".
* If you don't fix your management problems, you'll end up joining the likes of Schrade and Camilus. You doofuses!
* Replace my Back Pocket knife with something good and I'll broadcast that you at least stand behind what you make...even if we can't count on consistent quality.
* Refuse to stand behind your product and I'll do my darndest to let the world know that they shouldn't buy your knives.
Last but not least, I want to make you aware of something. Great Eastern Cutlery makes knives 100% better than yours. Consistently. So does Canal Street Cutlery. Remember those people?!!!!! You jackwagons...…
On January 1st, we will kick off our huge 2010 CUSTOM KNIFE AUCTION. We are cordially inviting all custom knifemakers to participate in this event, scheduled to take place in the fall of next…
RON had a great idea for picking numbers. i have ran lots of contests and i am going to try and help him along with tis
idea as it makes sense.i didnt make it in time for an edit and i didnt copy the rules{read those at the top of the post}
BUT HERE ARE THE NUMBERS PICKED SO FAR as well WE HAVE ONE NUMBER THAT AS GIVEN UP ,the number 24.i saw ROBERT wanted it and chose 23 instead ..so just a heads up,24 is open as the member had to drop out of contest.
here are the numbers already chosen.
13, 14, 15,16, 17,18 19, 20, 21, 22, 23,25, 26,27, 28, 30,32, 33, 36,37, 42,52 {i went ahead throgh entire post and wrote down all numbers by hand,so this list is correct} like i said 24 was picked but was dropped.
RON,great idea,i was thinking their had to be way to start making this number picking thing simpler.
NOW AGAIN RON ALREADY SAID THIS ONCE,IM HOPING WITH THIS BACK UP AND TIME TAKING THAT FOLKS WILL FOLLOW THROUGH THIS TIME. their is no need to copy all the rules,to keep it simple,the rules are always posted at the start of the thread,read them their. BUT PLEASE ITS VERY EASY TO COPY THE LINE OF NUMBERS LISTED ABOVE and then just ad your number to the actual; line of numbers. so you could copy/paste the line of numbers,say "MY PICK IS 57."
and then in the line of copied numbers take the time to add the number 57 in a numerical order.this will help the next person,and the next and the next. RON I HOPE I BACKED UP YOUR IDEA WELL ENOUGH NOW AND IT STICKS! i know ya didnt ask me to but it only makes sense. hope i helped.…