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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by John McCain on May 30, 2014 at 13:02

Paul, I am going to give you the benefit of my knowledge (or lack thereof). When I first looked at the knives, my first thought was they are both Nordic (Scandi knives) The second knife looks Finnish to me- I have one that was given to me as a gift along with 2 USA WWII combat knives that were brought home from the war by the uncle of the person that gave them to me. The first knife I am going to guess might be Norwegian-Drevelin translates to Norwegian- Not sure if it is a family name,  or what-Perhaps, the Scandi Fans Forum or someone like Alexander Noot might have some more insight-I  am guessing they are from that neck of the woods just based on their overall blade and handle profile- Anyhow here is a pic of my Finnish traditional horsehead Pukkaa made by Lisakki Jarvenpaa Oy, the oldest knife company in Finland-started in the late 1800's til today- That slim blade and blood groove are distinctive, and made me think your second knife was Finnish- BTW, loving that first knife and sheath alot !!

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Permalink Reply by Paul Slusser on May 30, 2014 at 21:55

Thanks for the information John. Much appreciated. That is one gorgeous knife you have there. Maybe some other folks will have some information too to help fill in the blanks. I really had no clue as to the origin.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Slusser on May 31, 2014 at 10:43

The stamp reads:

               DREVELIN

(clover?) LARSON

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Permalink Reply by peter force on May 31, 2014 at 12:17

hhey i agree withJOHN on this.. only thing i coould add and i have a few questions...  but first about the stamp.. i love stamps like this..  but with the top part of the stamp being NORWAY or NORWEGIAN..{50% of the translators i used came back with NORWAY as the traslation..--so i really dont know--im in the world of just going with what i have scene and so forth... with that said i would think LARSON and the symbol is the makers name.

the questions i have is the first knife it looks like a wooden carved handle ,,iss it?.. also the sheath is it brass?..

im with JOHN ALSO ON THAT FIRST KNIFE?..  it actualy looks like it has maybe a half tang or somthing  ..the knife under it  is it  solid ?? ..it looks like the blade is placed right into the tang.then torched or soldered or heated in someway.i have some knives like that but they are not built so well..

also their are lots of knives that are ..and the bottom knife would fall under this ..the top knife could but i highly doubt it...i see them called WAR  TRINKETS  ..i have a set of khukur blades that are AWESOME and they are even stamped something i forget at the moment ,,have a sheath and all.. but you can tell they were made  with whatever last minute materials they had..BUT their are always those who work with pride,regardless the situation.so sometimes you get a decent knife ..but most you can tell ...from the many parts used...and the rushed efforts..

the first knife was made by someone who cared.im loving the bevel just straight down the middle!!/LOVE IT!!/ JOHN you are right.that is a sweet little knife... that blade ..is it a mean piece  of steel or what??!!.from the angle of the picture it looks thick..the blade that it is??.thanx my friend for answering my questions..its appreciated...  

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by John McCain on May 31, 2014 at 13:00

Paul, this is starting to get REAL interesting !!  The first knife appears to be made by a Norwegian blacksmith and knifemaker by the name of Johan Wilhelm Drevelin who signed his work Drevelin Larsen with an E- Look close at the stamp- The records on this maker are kept by the Norwegian Forest Museum and the Norwegian Knife Association- When I tried to get deeper into it, had to pay to view the records ( I think). Translating to Norwegian only takes you so far -- Have no other info on his work or when he made them- Might be a museum piece you have there !! I found another website in Norwegian that has a lot of examples of similar type work if you are interested- Big site, and I did not dig through all the archives having to translate each page-Anyhow, here is the link  http://kniver.blogspot.com/2008/01/kniver-fra-blikstad-og-noen-andr...  and here is a pic or two of a similar knife by another Norwegian maker

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by John McCain on May 31, 2014 at 14:46

Paul, two things I forgot to mention 1-Johan Wilhelm Drevelin worked out of  Bergen, Norway 2- If we ever get a chance to meet, you owe me a beer !! ROFL

 

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by John McCain on May 31, 2014 at 16:25

BTW, on your second knife, Lisakki Jarvenpaa Oy, (Oy means Company) and I believe some other Finnish manufacturers did not use tang stamps- They etched the blade on the obverse side- You might look for remnants of a name there- Also that crackly handle material may have been by design- I read something about it in the previous mentioned link, just can't locate it for the moment- LOL- Also that brass etched  bolster is not at all uncommon for Scandi style knives  regardless of price~~

 

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Permalink Reply by peter force on May 31, 2014 at 19:43

hey john i really dont know the setup on the bottom knife at all.. is it done how i said..is the blade end at the tang and sorta heated in their or something...maybe pinned?..   and this has been fun. john thanx for digging up as much as you did.

regardless of the stamp..and did we find out is that a clover?? a very nice closeup of stamps like these should be taken and logged in a search type datadase - i have my own created for marks i have never seen..make notes..pics of knife and stamp if possible.. ect..

if their is one thing i can agree on is that this type of stuff is fun!.

 i actually was looking forward to getting home and checking to see if anymore info had been added by john and folks!.. AWESOME FINDINGS!!

those handles and that blade with the bevel right down the middle..iand the one with the LION/type stamp.. VERY NICE!!!.. great site john!

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by John McCain on May 31, 2014 at 20:37

Peter, I agree- I searched for the better part of 3 hours until I hit the right link- Did I waste my time, heck no, I enjoyed every minute of it-!!  PS- I searched my Goin's encyclopdia of tang stamps and came up empty- web search is all I have(for now)

 

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Permalink Reply by Paul Slusser on May 31, 2014 at 23:20

I have not had the opportunity to see these knives in person but hope to tomorrow night. Maybe I can get some better pictures then.  She was curious as to the age of these pieces.  I sure appreciate your help John. I will try to answer some of your questions tomorrow Peter. I would happily buy you a beer John!  LOL.

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