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Comment by Les Swalm on March 9, 2012 at 7:13

If you want to see the real deal go to http://www.cuttingedge.com/ and look at the Hen & Roosters there right now there are some collector club knives made by Hen & Rooster when AG own them they are the CM 4, 5 , 7 & 8.  4 & 8 are barlows.  This site is run by AG's team and clear identfies the Hen Rooster knives a safe place to shop.

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on March 8, 2012 at 20:58

Well, thank you Mr. AG. I paid $55 dollars and thought I had made a great deal. The baby barlows you have for sale are just alike. You have some with wood for $125 and some with problem ivory for around $200. So I thought one with stag was worth some where in between. It's not your fault, just my rookie mistake. I will learn from this and become a better collector. Thanks so much for your time, Mr. AG.

In Memoriam Comment by A. G. Russell on March 8, 2012 at 20:29

Robert, if you paid $60 or 70 for the knife you got a good deal, if you paid $300 or $400 then you were robbed.

In Memoriam Comment by A. G. Russell on March 8, 2012 at 20:27

Robert,

I am really sorry, you misunderstood.  We used Bertram GmbR and they call theirs Bertram Cutlery.

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on March 8, 2012 at 20:27

Thanks Mr. AG. I am so disapointed, it's not what I thought I was buying. It's got to go and I'll start over. Thanks so much for your time and help.

In Memoriam Comment by A. G. Russell on March 8, 2012 at 20:19

Fellows,  any Hen & Rooster knife with a model number or with a Hen & Rooster inlay was made for Jim Frost after the Summer of 1980, first by Klaas and then by Boker and now in Spain.  If it says Bertram Cutlery then it is Frost.  An email with a photo to agr@agr3.com will always get you an answer sooner or later.

A. G.

Sorry, I did not see Railsplitter's post until I had already written the above

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on March 8, 2012 at 20:14

I thought that if it had Bertran on the tang stamp it was when Mr. AG. owned it and they had to change the stamp after it went through the courts. This is what I read in one of Mr. AG's catalogs. I still don't understand. I think I have been taken advantage of. Well, it won't be the first time....so sad.

Comment by Railsplitter on March 8, 2012 at 20:07

Robert,

I don't know if I can help but I will try.  My knowledge is limited so please take this with a grain of salt.

Any Hen & Rooster knife with "Rostifrei" and/or a model number along the spine of the blade near the tang is a post-1980 knife.  I believe "Solingen" on the tang is also a sign of post-1980.  The shield with the hen and the rooster on it also depicts post-1980.

Your knife might very well be from the 80's but it is from later than 1980.  Most likely 1983 or newer.

A.G. owned Hen & Rooster from 1975 to 1980.  Before then they were owned by Mr. Bertram and his family members.  After 1980 they were owned by Frost and some other guy who's name I don't remember.

Comment by stephen tungate on March 8, 2012 at 20:01

yes mr.russell please tell us more all these knives since 1980 is frost knives?i don't understand...

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on March 8, 2012 at 19:48

WHAT! This is supposed to be one of yours. It's a Bertram. That's the reason I bought it, I thought it was one of yours. I'm lost, Mr. AG. This knife was aged to be from the 70's to the 80's. The tang stamp is "Bertram..cutlery..Rostifrei..241DS. You are not being rude, but very helpful for a beginner like me. Please tell me where I went wrong.

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