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Comment by J.J. Smith III on January 26, 2016 at 1:42

I'd like to hear ideas on how folks with limited mobility handle these issues also, Tobias.
For many of us, planning for long term situations could be impossible. As long as you'd be looking for a driver, I'm OK. Hiking through the woods, uhuh.
Like Jan said, medication is a critical issue. Being able to squirrel away a few days of necessary meds is important, and sometimes hard to do when needed on a daily basis.

Featured Comment by Charles Sample on January 25, 2016 at 20:07

John, my micra has the scissors.  They cut good and I use them a lot.

Comment by Clint Thompson on January 25, 2016 at 13:45

Jan the one thing we all need is a plan. If this event happens, a preset plan will take place involving all people who will join or rally with you. If another event happens then my group will rally at a point with these tools, weapons and supplies and we will move, fort-up etc. A good written plan with duties supplies and equipment assigned to the participants. This will save the time wasted in trying to call through jammed cell phone signals. By the way, Texting will get through easier. Just text a code word which will get people moving...i.e. "Plan 1".

Comment by Jan Carter on January 25, 2016 at 13:29

I, like Tobias, have an interest in how those with challenges plan.  While I am not in a wheel chair I suffer from Post-concussion syndrome.  This means at any given moment I might be sick to my stomach or have a migraine come on.  This on top of 6 herniated discs makes all but the easiest travel darn near impossible.  It also adds the challenge of what I would do without the meds.  In my bug out bag, I keep ginger ( for the nausea ) and about three days worth of the migraine and dizziness pills.  OK, for hunkering down this is not too bad, but I have often wondered if there is not something more I could be doing in case we really do have to bug out?

Comment by John A Smithers on January 25, 2016 at 13:24

Charles, is your Micra a scissors or pliers?  My pliers type was taken by TSA.  I carry a scissors type today.

Featured Comment by Charles Sample on January 25, 2016 at 13:12

My survivalist situation is somewhat unique.  I could bug out to the woods in an emergency but my wife can't.  So I won't, I will not leave her.  So for most any survival emergency my only option is to hunker down at home.  We always keep a goodly supply of bottled water and various types of canned and dry type foods.  Enough to carry both mine and my sons families through several days.

In the event of civil disorder I am probably better prepared than most to deal with it.  I will just say that I am well armed and know how to use them.  I served several years as a reserve police officer and am an experienced hunter.

The one likely situation in which we would bug out is during tornado weather.  We then go one mile to take shelter in our church.  It is not a tornado shelter per se but is a much more substantial concrete and steel building than our home.  We go into a ground floor interior room with no exterior walls.

I do maintain a bug out bag but its contents are a weather radio, a scanner, multiple flashlights, extra batteries, and a multi tool type knife.  I do not keep a gun in it because I will have on me my normal EDC of a .38 and a .380.  As we go out the door I will probably grab my 15 shot 9 mm also.  I will also have my EDC of a small single blade pocket knife, my lockback folding hunter in a belt sheath, and my Leatherman Micra.

We usually have advance notice when storms are possible so I will make sure my wife's wheel chair is in the van and will add my wife's good jewelry and medicine and a little cash we keep on hand for emergencies.to the bug out bag.

Comment by John A Smithers on January 25, 2016 at 12:55

Tobias, thanks for your note.  I was diagnosed with M.S. in 1980.  It has been so long now that survival with this disease is 2nd nature.  If something in the discussion comes up I will  comment on it.

Comment by Shlomo ben Maved on January 25, 2016 at 12:50

Tobias -- Love your walking stick...my 6½' one carries badges from eleven countries on it and there isn't a free space left.

I completely agree with your assessment on the CC Axe...Did you count the number of stroke he took to chop down a 2" tree...My hatchet would take maybe four and my canoe/cruiser axe at most two.

I just can't see a use for it or for that matter why/where I would carry it?  If I'm outdoors then I'm equipped and if I'm stranded in my vehicle again I'm equipped.

Comment by Clint Thompson on January 25, 2016 at 9:19

Tobias...

What you are doing is surviving and is the right thing to do. Stay alert, stay informed (Intel) and stay prepared. In Chicago it would be more difficult to have the firearm or firearms needed to defend yourself in your home.

In Oklahoma it is your right to protect yourself, your home and your loved ones with deadly force. It is not only your right but is expected of you. Really different worlds.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on January 25, 2016 at 8:48

I'm still not overly impressed with the credit card axe.   It is a very soft steel (I believe it is 316 Stainless)   316 is used in one time use surgical scalpels.   It is going to dull quickly as it is relatively soft.    I can cut through that tree branch just as quickly and with less energy expended using the saw on my 111mm Swiss Army Knife.

I think if anything, this would make a more intimidating make-shift personal defense weapon, that is, if the mugger gave you five-ten minutes to put it together.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have my Swiss Army Knife than an credit card axe.

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