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FeaturedPermalink Reply by Charles Sample on June 29, 2016 at 18:19

Nice knives Doug.

Permalink Reply by Anthony Moat on June 30, 2016 at 0:07

A couple of really sweet looking knives there Doug.

Tony.

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on June 30, 2016 at 19:44

My goodness that is a deep gorgeous blue!

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Doug Webber on July 2, 2016 at 5:39

Thank you Jan. I am very fond of the Schatt & Morgan knives. It's your fault you know. I was perfectly contented collecting only Schrades and then iKC came along and gave me a Queen Sway Back Jack in a monthly drawing. This small Wharnncliff Whittler is a part of the Keystone Series 7 as well. It is 3-1/8" closed. A small knife but impressive. It is my understanding that a Serpentine knife that is larger on one end than the other is a Wharncliff Pattern Knife, whether it has a Wharncliff bade or not. Any thoughts on that?

S&M #043046 Wharncliff Whittler

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on July 4, 2016 at 18:30

Now that is something I had never heard..it is an interesting thought.  I would almost say that it describes a whittler but I think wharncliff is specific to a blade style

It is my understanding that a Serpentine knife that is larger on one end than the other is a Wharncliff Pattern Knife, whether it has a Wharncliff bade or not. Any thoughts on that?

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on July 4, 2016 at 18:43

Doug .. I'm with Jan on this one.

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i.e. Wharncliffe is a style of blade (as defined by the geometry of the blade's shape)

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Serpentine is the knife model (based on the lazy S curved shape of the frame).

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Doug Webber on July 5, 2016 at 12:40

I'm still doing a little looking around on this one D ale. The Schrade 766 is listed as a Wharncliffe pattern, with clip and pen blades. It is also referred to as a Dogleg Jack or Pen.

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Doug Webber on July 10, 2016 at 13:52

After i asked about the Wharncliffe pattern knife, Tony asked the same question on another forum.The first 2 pictures are used with the permission of the collector that posted them and the 3rd picture I found on the internet.  The Wharncliffe in the 3rd picture appears to have a Wharncliffe blade but with the other two adds I'd say there is a knife pattern called a Wharncliffe. As pointed out on the other forum, the spelling variation of Wharncliffe is likely a local thing.

Enderes Alberta Lea Minn.

1921 Western States catalog  

From E. C. Simmons Encyclopedia Catalog #G, 1908

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on July 10, 2016 at 15:20

Good research, Doug.

I'd have certainly bet otherwise.

It's a good day when one learns something.

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!!! .. Documentation wins the day .. !!!

Everyday

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Nice job, Doug.

Permalink Reply by John Bamford on July 10, 2016 at 15:36

I am glad I didn't add my opinion earlier cos I would have been with Jan and Dale !!

Well done Doug , and don't you just love those old adverts .

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on July 10, 2016 at 20:23

Well I agree with Dale, it is always good to learn!  So there was a time when it was a style of knife not just a blade shape.  I have to wonder when did we just start calling it a serpentine and a pruning knife?

EXCELLENT work Doug!