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i used listen to people tell me you don't won't a r. r. they are made in china and are cheap knifes but i decided to find out for my self and i am glad i did.they make a knife for everbody and i like the quality maybe they are not good for resale but i am a collector of knifes so it does not matter.i always say beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. here is one i bought and i am glad i did.

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KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Tom Hudson on March 30, 2011 at 20:36

There not cheap knives! they have a great retail price but the knives themselseves are great - I chuck knives up in a vise & beat the hell out of them when i'm engraving one - I've never had a problem with a RR - AG Russell sell's his for 70 bucks & guys save for weeks to buy one - But they have AG on the blade - I don't sell my canvas I'm selling what I do to the canvas & i have a little fan club out there that buy my work - I have said it before - I don't know how long this price point will last but lets enjoy it while we can. tom

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on March 30, 2011 at 20:58

Nice Stephen, Good looking! Your right Tom, the fact is it seems almost as if the Rough Rider Brand has gone to a different level. I'm curious to know what factory they come out of and if any other brand comes out of that facility.

KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Tom Hudson on March 30, 2011 at 21:49

The Marbles I order look like sisters to Rough Riders - I would guess AG's knives also come out of the same plant - Also if you look at Mike Praters Painted Pony Knives that retail for 4 & 5 hundred dollars - look just like some of the Rough Riders - I don't know about the Buck guy - is it Crazy Horse? No clue where they are customized but I doubt it on some Indian Reservation out in the middle of a sag brush pile -

I was told that back when Jim Parker was having his knives built in Japan by the time they got to Jim in Chattanooga he was in them 50 cents - he got 14/15 bucks a piece for them - back then Japan was a dirty word just like China is now to some folks who don't want to admit that they are beating us at our own game -

Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on March 31, 2011 at 1:23

Well, most folks know that I'm partial to whittlers. Rough Rider, up till recently had 12 different whittler patterns. They have upped their game and have introduced another whittler pattern (the Boxcar Whittler), one that they call a Lockback Canoe, (a Canittler) and a Lockback Stockman (which from looking at it, it sure looks like a whittler too).

MORE WHITTLER PATTERNS THAN ANYONE ELSE.

Tom's right about the Marbles and Rough Riders being kin. Add some Colts and even some of the Schrade appears to be made at the same factory. This is evident in some of the more basic patterns, as well as even some specialty patterns.

Case in point, Compare the following RR302, MR173 and even a Remmington RE17547. All Big Whittlers at 4 1/2 " Different nail pulls in the Remmington, but still family. Colt has one also, but I'm not sure of the number.

Permalink Reply by stephen tungate on March 31, 2011 at 7:25

You are right Jimmy the whittlers. Do look brothers or sisters.and they are nice.

Permalink Reply by Jean-François on March 31, 2011 at 8:33

Perfectly exact. The first time I took a RR (a trapper) in my hands, I was really amazed because I expected the kind of terrible quality that you currently find in these French knives made in China, such as “Laguiole” whose blade writhes like a tin can lid. RR, and most of the China made “American” knives alike, are very well made and carefully finished, and the way they hold the edge is generally quite satisfactory. Specifically, the new RRs (and Marbles as well, that in fact look like clones of RRs) Sunfish knives I recently bought are even more beautiful than before.

My friends appreciate them; they are really happy to get one as gift (never forget: in France, and in some other countries too, the person to whom you offer a knife has to pay you a cent before opening it, “to avoid cutting the friendship”).

Yes, it seems …” as if these brands have gone to a (higher) level”. I guess that inventive brands such as CRKT seize the opportunities that offer the much lower production costs in China to improve their R&D, issue new patterns, design better locking systems, imagine technologies for tomorrow…

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on March 31, 2011 at 9:03

Sure looks like they are close cousins for sure, hard to see much of a difference.

J.J. Smith III said:

Well, most folks know that I'm partial to whittlers. Rough Rider, up till recently had 12 different whittler patterns. They have upped their game and have introduced another whittler pattern (the Boxcar Whittler), one that they call a Lockback Canoe, (a Canittler) and a Lockback Stockman (which from looking at it, it sure looks like a whittler too).

MORE WHITTLER PATTERNS THAN ANYONE ELSE.

Tom's right about the Marbles and Rough Riders being kin. Add some Colts and even some of the Schrade appears to be made at the same factory. This is evident in some of the more basic patterns, as well as even some specialty patterns.

Case in point, Compare the following RR302, MR173 and even a Remmington RE17547. All Big Whittlers at 4 1/2 " Different nail pulls in the Remmington, but still family. Colt has one also, but I'm not sure of the number.

Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on March 31, 2011 at 11:20

CRKT must have listened---

3x the cost of a Rough Rider, and still an inport. (Handle scales are nice though.)

Jean-François Pétillot said:

Perfectly exact. The first time I took a RR (a trapper) in my hands, I was really amazed because I expected the kind of terrible quality that you currently find in these French knives made in China, such as “Laguiole” whose blade writhes like a tin can lid. RR, and most of the China made “American” knives alike, are very well made and carefully finished, and the way they hold the edge is generally quite satisfactory. Specifically, the new RRs (and Marbles as well, that in fact look like clones of RRs) Sunfish knives I recently bought are even more beautiful than before.

My friends appreciate them; they are really happy to get one as gift (never forget: in France, and in some other countries too, the person to whom you offer a knife has to pay you a cent before opening it, “to avoid cutting the friendship”).

Yes, it seems …” as if these brands have gone to a (higher) level”. I guess that inventive brands such as CRKT seize the opportunities that offer the much lower production costs in China to improve their R&D, issue new patterns, design better locking systems, imagine technologies for tomorrow…

In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on April 3, 2011 at 13:04

The differance here is Marbles is an American company having it's knifes made in China where as Rough Riders are Chinese knives sold in America. Does that make any sense to you? Well, it's just a thought.

J.J. Smith III said:

Well, most folks know that I'm partial to whittlers. Rough Rider, up till recently had 12 different whittler patterns. They have upped their game and have introduced another whittler pattern (the Boxcar Whittler), one that they call a Lockback Canoe, (a Canittler) and a Lockback Stockman (which from looking at it, it sure looks like a whittler too).

MORE WHITTLER PATTERNS THAN ANYONE ELSE.

Tom's right about the Marbles and Rough Riders being kin. Add some Colts and even some of the Schrade appears to be made at the same factory. This is evident in some of the more basic patterns, as well as even some specialty patterns.

Case in point, Compare the following RR302, MR173 and even a Remmington RE17547. All Big Whittlers at 4 1/2 " Different nail pulls in the Remmington, but still family. Colt has one also, but I'm not sure of the number.

KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Tom Hudson on April 3, 2011 at 22:17

Marbles is an Old American Name Brand - it's my understanding SMKW either ownes the Brand now or just took it over? So American Company - knives made in Chinia

Rough Rider - New American brand - It's my understanding SMKW ownes the Brand - So another American Company - Knives made in Chinia

I was also told - (this is all Hush-Hush - so don't tell anyone) Blue Ridge wholesale knife company is 1/2 owner in RR with SMKW - Now who the heck owns Blue Ridge? Does SMKW:)? appears these knife companies are just one big happy family - I don't know for a fact that the above is true - it's just rumors - sometimes i believe rumors

Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on April 4, 2011 at 0:28

Yep, fellows, Smokey Mountain owns both brands, as well as Colt and a bunch of others too.

Permalink Reply by Tobias Gibson on April 27, 2011 at 17:26