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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on July 9, 2012 at 14:53

Don't know John, if you made one it should be here where this post is. Sometimes if that ADD REPLY button is not clicked in right spot it does not post. Just a thought.........

john a shavel said:

Pray tell what happened to the reply that Iput up.Here for a bit ,and now gone. Humm.....

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Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on July 9, 2012 at 15:31

Thanks Steve.  I talked to Ken (nice talk) at Famars and he is sending me a standard model and one in the $1,500 range for my review and my article I am writing now.  I appreciate you.

Clint

Scott Rauber said:

Magna Steel Sahlute Clint!  Here! Here!

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Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on July 9, 2012 at 15:35

Dad appreciates any recognition he can get.  We are planning a trip to Texas to visit Moore Maker Knives.  Should be a fun trip.  We will be looking at knives and cruising for chicks.  Well maybe not so much for knives....as he has his one knife...."don't need another!"

Tim Ross said:

Well said...and can we get Scott to give your dad a steel salute for making it to 88!  

Clint Thompson said:

iKC Members:

This is what is great about our country.  There is something for everyone (knives) in every price range.  I personally own over 200 knives of all kinds.  Now....what person can use 200 knives?  Ten percent of those knives are various brands of Boy scout knives.  Another twenty percent are auto knives.  Many of my knives are very expensive.  My insured value of my knife collection is $25,000.  I just know many of you have many more knives than I do.  A question will come to mind on just how many knives are too many?  My answer is....when I have to buy a bigger house to hold them is when I draw the line.  LOL! 

Now if I am the type of person who values quality and desire to own just one of the best then $500 for one top of the line pocket knife is not bad.  Look at it like this.....200 pocket knives which cost $25,000 or one high quality unique pocket knife at $500 which can be handed down for many generations.  When it is my time to go code 3 to the big squad room in the hereafter, my knife collection will most likely be sold off in one lot.  If I was to only have this one very special quality knife I carried and used, it would be passed on to my Son.  My Son then would pass it on to his child or grandchildren with the stories of how Grandpa cleaned this big trout he caught and how I used it from day to day.

My Dad who is 88 years old, worked in the oilfields all his life.  He carried a pocket knife, the only pocket knife he owned, everyday...day in and day out.  He did everything from cutting, scraping and even some prying.  My Dad now owns four pocket knives all of which I gave him.  Even though he has four pocket knives he has carried the same small knife for the last twenty five years.  This is why he has only four pocket knives, as I figured out he will only carry this one knife.  This inexpensive pocket knife will be passed down from generation to generation with a story of how Great, Great Granddad Thompson carried this knife and how it was used. 

The Famars knife could just be the one special knife your Great, Great Grandson will cherish and pass on to his child with a story how Great, Great Grandpa carried and used this quality tool.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on July 9, 2012 at 15:53

Clint, at the age of 88, he's gonna have more luck with a good knife.lol  Clint, what magazine do you write for again? I've been wanting to a subscription to a knife magazine but I just don't know which one to get. I have never seen them before. Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on July 9, 2012 at 16:40

Robert and other iKC members.  I write for "Knives Illustrated" so this is the one to subscribe to.

Go to this website:  http://www.magazines.com/knives-illustrated/8278-MA,default,pd.html...

I also write for other magazines from time to time.  I just finished one for Police Magazine.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on July 9, 2012 at 17:02

Well Clint, if you write for them it should be a good one. I'll order one very soon. Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on July 9, 2012 at 18:02

Tim,

Thanks for taking the time to help us better understand your knives and your company.  I appreciate it and it is good to see you here.

Clint,

I'd love to see your review when it is complete.  Take him cruisin' for chicks.....he already has a knife LOL

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Permalink Reply by Jemal Hamilton on July 9, 2012 at 18:25

Boss knife and review. Do they offer a serrated blade and maybe a tool blade, pry bar tip with serrated edge or a shell puller if your ejectors jam?

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Noot on July 10, 2012 at 1:58

Tim, I think you misunderstand me. I also gave this comment:

Something doesn't have to be used in a gunfight to break. Simple age might take care of that. Glues have a half life....simple as that.

I'm not bashing the knife really I'm not. All I'm saying is that you're paying a LOT of money for something that seems structurally inferior. It's one of those things that I'm sure is lovely for the shotgun lover with a lot of cash to blow....but for the knife-only lover this piece is a little gimmicky. Mr. A.G. Russell summed it up pretty well. Considering the review that was given (9,97 points overall!!) I'd also expect a little more than what was shown and what I could find out.

Then again.....if you spend a lot of money on a shotgun....maybe you don't mind spending a lot of money on a matching knife.

"Gentleman's knife" is no excuse for a shoddy build....especially not at that price point. Take a look at William Henry knives. Same kinds of price point, probably aimed towards the same audiences. Yet the construction and materials are top of the line. As they should be. Not that I'm saying that the build IS shoddy or that it won't hold up. I'm just speculating based on the info I have. I might be very wrong and that they use some kind of highly innovative system to pin the stuff that still allows it to have excellent strength whilst not showing anything. What do I know? I've only seen pictures.

Also, I'm not condemning the company for wanting to make an extra buck. Merely stating that knives aren't their known expertise. But maybe knives are simple after building guns for so many years.

Please do not think that I'm bashing your company or your work. I'm merely working from certain assumptions. Also please note that you didn't really adress any of the concerns I mentioned. When I said "shoddy workmanship" you merely said..."no we don't make shoddy things"...just stating that you don't doesn't make it so.

The concerns I mentioned about the construction are not adressed at all except for a statement that you use the best materials and know what you're doing because you've been building guns for so long.

Guns are not knives and I wouldn't pay someone big bucks to make a knife simply because they can make a great gun or vice versa.

I'm not saying your product is no good or anything. Merely stating that I wonder if it really is. Especially since this review that Scott was so kind to put his time into reads more like a commercial than an evaluation of a product.

Please don't take this personal....but I earn my living as a software tester and I'm trained (and get paid) to be critical of people's work (even my own).

Tim Ross said:

Hi Alexander,

I appreciate your comments and can address your concerns about how our knife is built.  First off we only use the best materials we can source and that are appropriate for our knife.  The knives are machined in the USA to a strict tolerance to ensure quality along with the fact we don't use cheap washers like our competitors.  When one of our knives is hand assembled it's tested and must pass strict inspection.  There is nothing "shoddy" about our knives.  Also, don't discount over 50 years of hand making the finest shotguns in the world.  When you spend that much time understanding what it means to be truly "bespoke" and mastering that craft its easy to understand why we couldn't sell an inferior product.  Nothing we do is cheap. As for making an "extra buck," we would make these in China like our competition.  It's not our way.  

Thanks again for your feedback.
Tim 

Alexander Noot said:

Something doesn't have to be used in a gunfight to break. Simple age might take care of that. Glues have a half life....simple as that.

I'm not bashing the knife really I'm not. All I'm saying is that you're paying a LOT of money for something that seems structurally inferior. It's one of those things that I'm sure is lovely for the shotgun lover with a lot of cash to blow....but for the knife-only lover this piece is a little gimmicky. Mr. A.G. Russell summed it up pretty well. Considering the review that was given (9,97 points overall!!) I'd also expect a little more than what was shown and what I could find out.

Then again.....if you spend a lot of money on a shotgun....maybe you don't mind spending a lot of money on a matching knife.

"Gentleman's knife" is no excuse for a shoddy build....especially not at that price point. Take a look at William Henry knives. Same kinds of price point, probably aimed towards the same audiences. Yet the construction and materials are top of the line. As they should be. Not that I'm saying that the build IS shoddy or that it won't hold up. I'm just speculating based on the info I have. I might be very wrong and that they use some kind of highly innovative system to pin the stuff that still allows it to have excellent strength whilst not showing anything. What do I know? I've only seen pictures.

Also, I'm not condemning the company for wanting to make an extra buck. Merely stating that knives aren't their known expertise. But maybe knives are simple after building guns for so many years.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Rauber on July 10, 2012 at 7:30

Steel Sahlute to Clint's dad! 

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Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on July 10, 2012 at 8:04

Scott....

On the behalf of my 88 year old Dad....I accept the coveted "Steel Salute" with honor and humility.  I am going up to Kansas on one of my visits and will notify him of his recent award and recognition.

My Dad always drives General Motors cars.  In WWII, he spent two years in the South Pacific in the USN.  He was the Chief Gunner's Mate on his ship.  He always said he would not buy one of those "Damn Jap cars".  No offense intended to any Asian members.  One day I told him my secretary had bought a Mitsubishi.  He stopped....and for a moment a curious look came over his face with a wicked little grin.  He then said, "I use to shoot those down."  My Dad at that time did not know Mitsubishi sold cars in the USA.

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KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Tim Ross on July 10, 2012 at 8:08

Hi Jemal,

We do offer a serrated blade.  We offer many blade and tool options.  www.famarslama.com is the site and it will outline all the various options.  All at no extra cost, just chose the blade or tool that works for you and we'll assemble it for you.

Tim

Jemal Hamilton said:

Boss knife and review. Do they offer a serrated blade and maybe a tool blade, pry bar tip with serrated edge or a shell puller if your ejectors jam?

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