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WW2 Italian MSVN 2nd pattern info

is anyone familiar with these , i remember these were about $100 years ago , i just secured one in good shape original scabbard also in great shape , two rivet later variant

were these imported or are they mostly war trophies , current values , i see some listed north of $350 into the $400's but do not know if they sell for that , im giving $200 for my example

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Permalink Reply by Lars on October 4, 2025 at 15:16

You got a Black shirt dagger for 2 bills? With scabbard? Oh sweet deal!

Of course...this is just hear-say until you produce photos. Not nice to get us all excited without photos! :-D

Good deal - anxious to see your prize....

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 4, 2025 at 16:22

lol , im sorry buddy , it popped up on my favorite pawn shop site , they have 8 locations and they will xfer items from store to store for people/sales , it was secured for me and should be in town beginning to middle of the week , i will certainly update with photos

i actually got them down from $250 , they agreed because im a very good customer and rarely haggle since i only go after what i think is fair priced , its too irritating the back and forth of haggling so i do not usually want to suffer it , but i had a feeling and its been sitting for almost 3 weeks and i kniow they like to move inventory and i took a shot and they said sure

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 4, 2025 at 16:29

so its also called a black shirt dagger , already learned something more about it , like i sid in the OP i remember seeing these floating around years ago for $100'ish neighborhood , but do not collect italian stuff , owned a Carcano or two but always sold for something else

were these ever imported or are they generally considered VBB trophies

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Permalink Reply by Lars on October 14, 2025 at 21:35

Oh good looking piece there DB! It appears to be in really good shape. Yea, you don't see those flying around much. Good job - how exciting to finally have it in hand.

I am not a photo expert here on iKC, but DLKG, Kevin D, and Dennis Hobar each do some pretty nice work with the photos. I do know enough not to try and upload from my phone. When uploading them to a thread such as this, I pull my images from it's folder on my PC by using the photo icon on the menu bar: