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is anyone familiar with these , i remember these were about $100 years ago , i just secured one in good shape original scabbard also in great shape , two rivet later variant

were these imported or are they mostly war trophies , current values , i see some listed north of $350 into the $400's but do not know if they sell for that , im giving $200 for my example

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You got a Black shirt dagger for 2 bills? With scabbard? Oh sweet deal!

Of course...this is just hear-say until you produce photos. Not nice to get us all excited without photos! :-D

Good deal - anxious to see your prize....

lol , im sorry buddy , it popped up on my favorite pawn shop site , they have 8 locations and they will xfer items from store to store for people/sales , it was secured for me and should be in town beginning to middle of the week , i will certainly update with photos 

i actually got them down from $250 , they agreed because im a very good customer and rarely haggle since i only go after what i think is fair priced , its too irritating the back and forth of haggling so i do not usually want to suffer it , but i had a feeling and its been sitting for almost 3 weeks and i kniow they like to move inventory and i took a shot and they said sure

so its also called a black shirt dagger , already learned something more about it , like i sid in the OP i remember seeing these floating around years ago for $100'ish neighborhood , but do not collect italian stuff , owned a Carcano or two but always sold for something else 

were these ever imported or are they generally considered VBB trophies 

evidently they had in in the store since thursday but never called , it was coming from their location on the other side of the state so i did not think anything of it , but its home now , they had $250 , it sat for a couple weeks , i offered $200 , plus tax they took it

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i cant figure out this sites pictures , pretty agrivating

Oh good looking piece there DB! It appears to be in really good shape. Yea, you don't see those flying around much. Good job - how exciting to finally have it in hand.

I am not a photo expert here on iKC, but DLKG, Kevin D, and Dennis Hobar each do some pretty nice work with the photos. I do know enough not to try and upload from my phone. When uploading them to a thread such as this, I pull my images from it's folder on my PC by using the photo icon on the menu bar:

Did you see what I did there? It's Polish magic. I took a picture of the picture button, then posted it using the picture button! 

Try it with your Black Shirt dagger...err...your MSVN - I think you'll see it works pretty good when adding a photo to a thread. 

ok it worked this time , i tried that tab last night and it would not post

Oh nice photos...well done. 

Yea...I notice too that sometimes when I post a photo, it comes in huge. I typically delete it, reload it, and it comes in fine (to scale).

yea , nothing i did yesterday worked , i am no stranger to posting pics , when all else fails i upload to the hosting site and post from there and that did not even work , it worked fine today though , it did not ask me to define pixels like it did yesterday

Lars said:

Oh nice photos...well done. 

Yea...I notice too that sometimes when I post a photo, it comes in huge. I typically delete it, reload it, and it comes in fine (to scale).

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