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This group is for knife enthusiasts who are interested in repairing, modifiying, restoring or improving knives, including fixed blades, folders and automatics of all types.

Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Mosaic pins

Started by D ale. Last reply by D ale Jul 9. 28 Replies

Mosaic pins can add SO0o very much to a knife.Such as .. expense !!!Note: The…Continue

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Electricians Knife Clean Up (Klein WWII Era)

Started by Andy Larrison. Last reply by Andy Larrison Jun 21. 6 Replies

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Straight Knife Build

Started by D ale. Last reply by J.J. Smith III Jun 17. 34 Replies

I was recently humbled to receive Member of the Year award for 2016..I can recall when Jan first joined. JJ Smith III was my first official "iKC friend" back in early 2010. I've been around here for awhile & it was simply amazing to be honored…Continue

Left handed MIKOV

Started by D ale. Last reply by D ale Jun 2. 2 Replies

I got a rare treat over the week-end. I had the chance to clean-up, slightly modify, & sharpen a knife I’d made 5 yrs ago. Once I gift them .. I rarely see them again..One of my brothers is left handed & I made him a left handed auto about 5…Continue

Colonial Barlow build

Started by Jon Linville. Last reply by Michael Squier May 10. 6 Replies

I picked up a mess of knives awhile back for next to nothing.  I think I may have had $0.25-$0.35 per knife invested in the lot.  In it was a Colonial Barlow with a broken scale.  I didn't feel like gluing it back together, so I did this,…Continue

Uncle Henry (Schrade) half blade

Started by Andy Jordan. Last reply by Andy Jordan Apr 17. 3 Replies

As promised in an earlier post, here is the Uncle Henry that had a half of a blade missing.  After some effort procuring a 1/16" piece of 440C stainless steel (what research had shown me these Uncle Henry blades were composed of), I finally got to…Continue

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Comment by Wally Guittard on June 22, 2017 at 13:52

I've been very busy with many projects and finally have got most of them done.. :). As to the 317 it is progressing  just a bit. I have managed to get the blades back to a point with a lot of work and I also discovered that the main blade has had the tip broken before and its been redone and then the tip was broken again by the time I got it.

 So its close to a quarter inch shorter that the stock blade. I have been looking for tools to shape the scales after they are cut and came a cross a dremel kit with a most every thing I will need. 

  I have the balsa wood and the black walnut for the scales is on its way. One of the few problems will be removing the scale on the other side and I've decided the trim the pin that holds it on. However I will be sure its stable. 

Comment by D ale on May 31, 2017 at 23:23

Wally

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The absence of any tools is a detriment to accomplishing this yourself. It does throw a definite impediment into the process.

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However, you do imply you've the skills & confidence to fabricate a pattern out of balsa wood .. that is a very positive attribute.

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A set of wood scale material may not be as pricey as you anticipate ..as.. they can be obtained in the range of $5 ~ $10 .. less if you have some appropriately sized "scraps" available for use.

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NOTE: The highlighted & underlined "price range" is a link to a source for said scale blanks. If you click on the link .. it should take you to the site. Other options are certainly out there.

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I agree that wood is easier to work with. Simple hand tools .. coping saw, rasp, file, sandpaper, etc .. are all that is required. While the same is true for bone .. jigged bone is typically a bit more expensive. I personally find the natural wood grain more aesthetically pleasing. My wife absolutely refuses to entertain anything but.

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... I believe ...

The biggest hurdle for you is the removal & replacement of the center backspring pin. I could think of ways around that ..if.. you were interested. However .. most of us would remove the existing center backspring pin & re-introduce a new one in the process. Correct me if I am wrong ..AND.. no offense intended ..BUT.. I suspect that to be pushing your comfort zone. Again .. I could suggest (legitimate) methods to replace the scales without removing the center backspring pin. However .. most of us would replace the center backspring pin in the process.

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Adhesives .. there exist a # of 2-part epoxies that will sufficiently secure any replacement scales in place.There are choices you can make & things you can do to further enhance the success of using adhesives ... roughing up the mating surfaces .. correct choice of adhesive .. etc.

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Wally .. would you post a pic of the blades. You've intimated the tips are broken. How badly are they damaged ?  Would you wish them restored, i.e. reground to a point ??

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Thanks again for joining our "Repair & Mod" group.

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Enjoy

D ale

Comment by Wally Guittard on May 31, 2017 at 18:39

I've not got any tools I could work wood or bone with but I do have an idea. I used to build model planes using Balsa wood when I was around 11 yrs old.

  I got to thinking about using Balsa wood to make the pattern and use it get where it fit the frame of the 317 and the wood is soft enough that I should be able to use it to make sure it fits the frame and mounting holes in the frame.

  Then I could select the type wood I wanted use and have a ready made pattern to follow while making the scale or if I need to have some one else make the pattern.

  Black Walnut come to mind as a wood to use for the scales. however that wood is harder than a rock and pretty expenseve or at least it was 25 or 30 yrs ago. There are several other types I given some thought to.

   Bone scales would be very nice, however I'm not a fan of the bone scales as they do not feel right in my hand. I have an Uncle Henry folding hunter with the bone scales and they make it feel like its way bigger than it is and it feels uncomfortable in my hand.

  So I'm thinking of using wood scales as replacements. Wood would be easier for me to work with and with the balsa wood pattern the scales could be cut and all I would need to do is finish them out. 

  But here's the kicker. I have no way to mount the scales or do I know how to mount them or brad the one pin that us used to help hold the scales on the frame and if any kind of a glue is used to help hold the scales on. 

  So it would probably be better for me to have it done.

Comment by D ale on May 31, 2017 at 8:48

Thanks for transferring the pertinent pics, Jan.
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I'm w/ Derek on this one .. it would be a great time to replace both scales. And the old scale on the other side could be used as a "pattern" when making the new scales. The choice of material for new scales is almost endless & the result would be very unique.

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Wally .. what exactly are your questions Re: the scale replacement. Also, what tools do you have at your disposal ?

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Enjoy

D ale

Comment by Jan Carter on May 30, 2017 at 18:36

Hi Ya'll.  A newer member posted a discussion that I think would be best in here, so here is the link Buck 317

missing scale side 

Comment by D ale on April 9, 2017 at 2:42

I never make the same mistake twice.

I make it like .. 4 or 5 times.

You know .. just to be sure !!

Comment by Steve Scheuerman (Manx) on March 20, 2017 at 18:45

Comment by Michael Squier on February 9, 2017 at 8:55

mr. clean magic eraser will scuff the surface. 

Comment by Andy Larrison on February 9, 2017 at 7:50

Unfortunately I picked this knife up at an antique mall/flea-market so I don't have much history on it.  I know I had seen this knife a few weeks back and I believe it looks about the same now as when I had first laid eyes on it.  If it is from the gas, is there anything I can do to stop the erosion?  I've heard of it's nasty effects, just not experienced it first hand.  If it's not from the gas...any thoughts on cleaning it?  I've not got much in this knife, just liked the looks of the handles and noticed the blades were full so I thought it'd be a good EDC, just wanted to try and clean it up a little bit better.

Comment by Ron Cooper on February 9, 2017 at 6:54

Andy,

Does this knife, or any knives that were stored near this knife, have celluloid handles? If those blades were clear a week ago and suddenly became as they are seen in those pictures then I would have to think that they were exposed to a celluloid handled knife that was gassing out? That would be my first guess, anyway.

 
 
 

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