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help me figure out origin & value of this knife please

I think it's rare & rather cool but would love to learn more about it. There are only designs on the blade not any stamps or dates.

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Permalink Reply by chris on August 6, 2012 at 16:14

One nore

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on August 6, 2012 at 17:20

Cool knife .. does it make a ratcheting sound when opened !!!

Could you post a pic of the locking mechanism, please !!!

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Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on August 6, 2012 at 19:31

Turkish?

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Permalink Reply by chris on August 6, 2012 at 20:17

The lock no lomger holds, it does not make any noise when opened. The grip portion appears to be bone with 3 wire ropes that appear to be brass. Keep racking your brains for me guys lol, thank you.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on August 6, 2012 at 20:42

Thank you .. what I was looking for was a series of locking notches @ the base of the blade .. not present in your pics.

That would have indicated possible Sicilian origin .. or, at least .. Italian descent. But again .. not present in the knife you picture.

I'm going w/ JJ on this one .. turkish / middle eastern origin.

Monetary value .. whatever you can get someone to pay for it ... no more , no less.

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Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on August 8, 2012 at 1:52

Dale, were you thinking a traditional "Navaja" knife? Early Navaja styled knives were friction folders. Chris's knife could be a transitional design. Check out this one from e-bay, with no notches.

The latest attachments seem to indicate a simple flat locking mechansm, opened like a Laguiole.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on August 8, 2012 at 2:53

This type of knife is listed in Bernie's text & was associated w/ Sicily .. it stated something about the ratcheting sound causing fear in the same manner as jacking a pump shotgun would .. which sounds more like hype than fact .. but am unable to locate the info @ this moment. I'll try to correct that .. soon.

All other info I'm finding points towards Spanish origin.

I pulled this out of wikipedia .. a questionable source .but. improving. "The last pinion tooth serves to keep the blade locked in its fully opened position.^[9] The ratcheting-tooth lock-blade navaja was commonly referred to as a navaja de muelles or navaja de siete muelles. The metal-to-metal contact produces a distinctive clicking sound when the blade is opened, and the navaja de muelles was popularly termed the carraca in consequence.^[9]"

I believe .. in the traditional sense .. navaja is the generic (Spanish/Portuguese) term for pocketknife .. although, you couldn't prove it by spyderco. I only know this because .. on a business trip to Brazil .. I wanted to pick up a knife of local manufacture. Sooo, after explaining that to the desk clerk, I asked him what to call this .. holding out my case mini copperlock. He stated I should ask for a "navaja".

Interesting note .. w/ the help of one of the locals .. I was directed to a cutlery shop .. only knives I could find down there were BUCK, Swiss army, & kitchen knives. :(