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Comment by Tobias Gibson on May 3, 2015 at 20:31

did n't have anything better to do so I went back in the basement and decided to test the liner lock.  I held the knife on the edge of the work bench sharp edge down.   I extended the entire length of the blade as well as the pivot point  beynd the edge of the bench and gave the knife repeated whacks on the spine of the blade with a 1X2 piece of pine about 18 inched long.   There are several indentations in the pine but the lock didn't fail and the blade is as tight as it was when i began.   So far I'm pretty impressed. with this $5  Chinese Knock-off.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on May 3, 2015 at 20:19

Well so far, I've discovered an interesting way to open the knife one handed without using the thumb stud.  I gave the knife a rather quick underhanded pitch against against the concrete wall from a distance of 11 feet.   The knife hit the wall about 4 feet above ground and then bounced off the floor.  It opened up about half way.  I picked it up and flicked it the rest of the way open.   As far as i can tell the knife is none the worst.    There is small chip int he concrete where the knife hit.  Obviously, not something I do with every knife I buy but I figured what the heck.  LOL

Comment by Jan Carter on May 3, 2015 at 19:45

Tobias,

Good work removing the BUCK USA.  I am interested in how it will hold up to use

Comment by Tobias Gibson on May 3, 2015 at 19:09

After some minor alterations I feel I can now use the knife and not feel like I'm insulting Buck.    The BUCK/U.S.A. has been removed.   As the wood marking clearly states Jabes Cutlery, I can live with that and if I ever opt to sell it I will not do it in a Buck Knives box and  tell the  buyer it is knock-off of a Kershaw 8700 Series knife.  That said, I seriously doubt I will sell it but I will put it to good use.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on May 3, 2015 at 18:37

I assumed almost from the get-go that it was not a true Buck simply because of the Buck/USA blade stamp.   I've also run across fake  5-11, Kershaws, and Gerbers.   Had it not been a boring late night and had I checked on where it was coming from I'd have never bought it.  I never buy knives that ship from China because nine times out of ten they turn out to be fakes.

I figured I'd check with the Buck guys here because at least you're not ridiculed when you do something stupid.  My only thought was it may have been a knife Buck had made at one time in China and this was overstock being sold.  From the way it sounds here it was NEVER a Buck design.

Featured Comment by dead_left_knife_guy on May 3, 2015 at 15:58

Tobias -- the quick answer is no.  Someone took the Kershaw 8700 design & but it in Buck packaging.  Buck doesn't rip off Kershaw designs -- however, since the original Kershaw knife was made in China, there' s a good chance this knife was made in the same factory & sold directly to the US market.  

Thing is, it's probably not a bad knife, quality-wise.   BUT, there's a decent chance the Chinese government is subsidizing the sale, potentially in efforts to sink US manufacturers, in this case knife manufacturers.  

Also, I'm pretty sure a Buck knife will not say "USA" unless it was actually built in the US (if they're made elsewhere, they will indicate that country & not say "USA").

So, at this point, might as well see how it performs & get back to us on that!

Comment by Shlomo ben Maved on May 3, 2015 at 12:35

Check out this off site of Ali:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/515751

A genuine Buck model 110 Anniversary (Marked US Army) for $33 and a Damascus version---which is probably just acid etched--for $50.

Comment by Shlomo ben Maved on May 3, 2015 at 12:20

I found an image of it via Google and it is listed as a X44 and made or exported by the biggest rip off on the Internet, Ali Express.  A company noted for it's failure to provide the item in the first place, failure to honour their guarantees or warranty and have more hate sites and pending law suits then any company in the history of marketing.

Everything listed here is pure fake.

http://www.aliexpress.com/folding-buck-knife_reviews.html

Comment by Shlomo ben Maved on May 3, 2015 at 12:12

Remember that Buck didn't stop A L L production of their knives from the Orient just a large percentage so there are legitimate models being produced in China (PRC) to this day.

Since Buck has never had it listed in their catalogue then what you've got is a 100%, genuine, authentic, piece of Chi-Comm rip off fake/forgery/counterfeit regardless of how well made it is.

Report it to Buck but then again, they can't do sweet all about it as China doesn't recognize copyrights, trademarks etc. from other countries and will tell them to go stick it.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on May 3, 2015 at 12:03

funny thing is,  I spent $5 for the knife.  It is well worth about twice that with no problem, regardless is it is a genuine Buck or a Buck Rogers!  So if it is a counterfeit, the guy is the in wrong business!

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