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I have been collecting knives for about 2 years. I am very intersted in Case knives. I am retired so I have to hunt for CASE bargains. I just purchased a CASE 9254 pattern knife at my local flea market. Unfortunatly no box or papers but it looks like it it new. The handle is bright red with a slight touch of silver. I assume the handle is corelon but I can't find a knife with the same color configuration any where on the net. There is no engraving on the blade. The base of the knife shows x .x on first line Case xx on second line with x x.x on the third line (maybe 2007?). It is not a fire in the box config. Any help identifying the name of the color config or the fact that it is corelon will be greatly appectiated
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Tobias Gibson said:
Um, Not sure if Mr Prater, developed Corelon or not but I do know who holds the TM for the product. Prater's painted pony knives are exceptional but normally feature real stones. I'm also not 100% sure Prater has always done the work for Frost. I know they are quick to point it out these days but that has not always been the case.
For TM info see: a rel="nofollow" href="http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4006:48jn6a.2.1" target="_blank">http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4006:48jn6a.2.1 >
Word Mark CORELON Goods and Services IC 008. US 023 028 044. G & S: cutlery, namely pocket and collector's knives. FIRST USE: 20001231. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20001231 Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 78449058 Filing Date July 12, 2004 Current Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition April 18, 2006 Registration Number 3113734 Registration Date July 11, 2006 Owner (REGISTRANT) Frost, James A. DBA Frost Cutlery INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 6861 Mountain View Road Ooltewah TENNESSEE 37363 (LAST LISTED OWNER) FROST CUTLERY COMPANY LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY TENNESSEE 6861 MOUNTAIN VIEW ROAD OOLTEWAH TENNESSEE 37363
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED Attorney of Record Susan B. Flohr Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE Gerald Hines said:
Here's the truth about Corelon and Case knives.
Corelon is a product developed by Michael Prather Enterprises of Flintstone, Ga. (he does not call it corelon, but I can't remember exactly what he called it). Case ships the knives to His shop and he puts the handles on and sends them to Frost and one dealer in Kentucky. So rest assured all these knives are truly made in the USA. If you are not familiar withe Michael Prather his products are better known as Painted Pony. I have been to his shop several times and even toured the shop where all the work is done. He has a couple of barrels of old scale materials he has taken off Case knives before they started sending them without scale already on.
Tobias like I stated in my other post he does not call it corelon he called it (micro< something) when I visited his shop I watched them make it. Now Frost may have the TM on the name Corelon that's true. I have seen his workers attach this to the Case knives so I know from first hand it's done there.
Definitely not one to argue. We might be splitting hairs. This is one of those things that would be a better as an in person discussion than one done via a email/news group.
My point was I don't know that all the Corelon Case knives were done by Prater. I recall Case having a hissy-fit over the early ones and I've only recently heard Cutlery Corner Network mention Prater as supplying the after-market handles to the H&R and Case knives.
I know Prater uses something called "Mica Pearl" for knife handles. Is that that the word you were thinking about? It is also an Acrylic resin.
In any case I've read very few complaints about the Corelon handled Case knives. In fact the complaints would be about the same that I've heard about ANY Case knife. So the quality has always been there even with the earlier knives. Those who collect acrylic and celluloid handles seem to like it.
That said, I wouldn't put these on the same level as Prater's Painted Pony knives (and it is obvious from your post, that you didn't do that.)
Thanks for the info Gerald.
Gerald Hines said:
Tobias like I stated in my other post he does not call it corelon he called it (micro< something) when I visited his shop I watched them make it. Now Frost may have the TM on the name Corelon that's true. I have seen his workers attach this to the Case knives so I know from first hand it's done there.
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The only problem I have wiht the conclusion that the knife in question is part of the fire in the box series is that there is no yellow color on the knife handle. All of the fire in the box pictures on the net has some yellow on the knife. In addition there there is no engraving on either of the knife blades. The mystery continues!
Tobias I think we're talking about the same thing, but on different roads that wind up at the same destination.
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