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A Pakistan suppliers point of view...didn't see that coming did you?

I was recently contacted by a supplier of Pakistan knives and steel. Now, Now...give this discussion a chance.

This supplier has been on iKC for a number of years. When he first contacted me it was with the hope that I would listen and have an open minded discussion with him. Because he is a member and has been very respectful not to overstep here at iKC with selling openly. I chose to listen. This was how the discussion started

The issue is that I want to directly market my knives in USA market, these have already been sold in large quantity but indirectly by my country men, both in retail and wholesale. But I am sick and tired by their behavior of exploiting the smooth running business contact by dishonesty in many ways.

Well, that intrigued me & I decided to be brutally honest. My reply was that you face 2 challenges. Poor steel reputation from the region and the working environment (as we know it). A few more emails passed regarding the environment of the workers. We came to understand that he himself is not a maker, but has many local makers producing for him. He interviews makers before he begins to accept their work and checks out their product. My next question? Do you employ kids? The answer, yes. It is a fact of the economic life in that region that children work within the family. Much the same as it was for us many, many moons ago. What did I find different enough to continue listening after that statement? He discusses with the family before hiring a young worker that he wants them them to get an education also.

So my next discussion with him focused solely on quality, not of the build but of the steel. I asked him to read a current discussion on here http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/does-anybody-want-this-.... I have been pretty brutally honest with my answers to him. I advised him to give a few of his knives to people that use them hard and have them reviewed. I also advised that he needed to be prepared for the response about the knives be that whatever it may be!

Lat me start by making this clear. I do not intend to sell Pakistan knives, nor will I allow soliciting on the site. As an international community I am curious.

So here is my question. If you knew a company stood behind their product, that you were dealing with the company owner. Would YOU be willing to buy a knife made in Pakistan?

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Comment by Marc Lacrimosa on August 5, 2014 at 7:11: Since we are on that. Me as a retailer wouldn't mind seeing one and testing it on the market.

Comment by Alexander Noot on August 5, 2014 at 7:07: Let me just say that so far I've been very impressed with both Waqas' conduct here on iKC and the products he sent me for inspection.

KnifeMaker Comment by Waqas Yousaf Farooq on August 3, 2014 at 15:20: Ok Mr.Marc, Your acceptance to my friendship request will be good for further discussion on some important aspects. because on this forum It will not leave good impression with respect to follow the rules of IKC.Which should be taken care at first priority .

Comment by Marc Lacrimosa on July 31, 2014 at 18:55: Waqas. I make all my own Kydex. I'm making kydex as well here for a Pakistani maker over there. Do you need someone to build for you.

KnifeMaker Comment by Waqas Yousaf Farooq on July 31, 2014 at 17:55: Mr.Marc, I visited your web page and Pakistani stuff on it, do you get keydex sheath as wel l from pakistanwih tose knives???

Comment by Steve Scheuerman (Manx) on July 31, 2014 at 16:55: That's great to hear, Alexander! Are you going to put them through any testing yourself?

Comment by Marc Lacrimosa on July 31, 2014 at 8:23: Someone made a comment to me about listing knives saying made overseas not Pakistan. I do have someone that works on my site. We do list Pakistan or where ever. Yes the ones that say designed by us in the United States... 100% true. We tell all buyers when questioned what country. Thank you

Comment by Marc Lacrimosa on July 31, 2014 at 6:46: I deal with two suppliers. If you go to my website www.gear2surviveshop.com

look under gear2survive knives and Knives Ranch.