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Permalink Reply by Ron Cooper on October 29, 2013 at 4:23

My suggestion is as follows...

A designated Group for sales and/or trading of knives that would give those who make knives and those who wish to sell or trade knives a specific place to hawk their wares. Sales and/or trades would be confined exclusively to that Group and verboten anywhere else.

That's my unsolicited $0.02

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on October 29, 2013 at 4:33

Alexander, that was my thought when we began selling ads.  We need interaction with the manufactures and makers  I am beginning to think a sellers group might be the answer and some pieces from each of those suggestions may blend in well to have it be non disruptive.  Stay tuned and keep them coming

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Permalink Reply by Brian Martin on October 29, 2013 at 11:12

I would like to clarify about ebay links, in a sellers group would this be allowed or agianst the rules?

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on October 29, 2013 at 12:43

Adds on the certain pages are fine but the transactions and price list and such, should be in a special group. A group that is not hidden and takes the customer time to find. Trades and sells could start there and finish on their own.

  I agree with Alex, the makers and distributors are part of us and should not be discouraged. Then again, they should not be allowed to over run our collector groups. A fine line between the collecting and sales must be kept. I think Miss Jan is just the one to do it.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Scheuerman (Manx) on October 29, 2013 at 14:08

Well...we have our "My Pages" to customise and play with...what about, for a small fee, makers and dealers could buy a "My Sales Page"? Similar to the My Page, but there only to list sales, auctions etc. The Site could get a bit of income from them, not everyone has to have one, and it could well keep the sales spam to a minimum. Keep the My Photos on it, adjust the layout to show auctions, websites, links to their sales and a history of themselves or their products. That leaves the Buy and Sell forum to us wee folk who sell one here and there, and we don't get swallowed up when someone posts 37 sales. Keep sales out of Chat ("Oh, my listing? Check my Sales Page"), keep a place for the sporadic sellers that isn't overrun by dealers/makers/sellers, and keep the rest of the site just the way it is.

I didn't mean to imply no access to dealers/makers Alexander, but honestly, sales here is an afterthought. The focus is camaraderie, collecting and sharing our love for knives, not to get bogged down by more people looking to make their bucks. Easy enough for a dealer to get their own site, use other forums or what have you to further their business...there are tons of them that get wayyy more coverage than here. We have something unique here. Why cheapen or ruin it by trying to be like "the other forums" when the whole reason most of us are here is because we are so different from them? A small plug here is fine, but the last thing I want is to have commercialism ruin a perfectly good place to have fun. Money tends to bring out the worst in some folks, and I'd hate to see arguments or petty rivalries erupt here over sales, or having to ban folks over money or comments on others' reputations.

Stick true to what we have, and what we have yet to achieve.

My opinion...not yours. *grin*

 

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Permalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on October 29, 2013 at 16:46

Might be difficult for members to search for individual sales pages, Manx.  A centralized "sellers group" could allow its members their own "discussion" (only 1

)within the group.  iKC has customizing features that allows for photos, fonts etc, on the discussion.  Sellers would have the ability to list their websites and other contact info.  Replies to the discussion would be for individual listings.  Sellers would have the responsibility to keep the listings current and remove any sold items.

I agree with the idea of keeping these photos separate from the general photo gallery.

Members wanting to buy would not need to join the group, as they would follow the sellers links to the sellers site, e-mail or e-bay site, away from iKC.

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KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Dave Taylor on October 29, 2013 at 16:53

You have not seen me here on iKC  of late and this topic is a part of the reason why. 

There seems to be certain individuals who will enter the chat room and then post a link to their for profit knife business with the intent we will all rush over there and buy what they have for sale.  They pay nothing to iKC for this free advertising and disrupt the chat room by doing so. 

Others obtain their free advertising for their "best knives in the world" knife business by posting blog after blog after blog, just sure that we are all anxiously waiting for their next creation.  This sort of selfish conduct is not what I visit IKC to be subjected to. 

I have no problem with those fine folks who pay for their advertising and provide a legitimate service to us all.  They are welcome here as far as I am concerned, but the freeloaders have to go.  I have a place in mind for them but it is not accessible  through iKC.     

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Permalink Reply by Steve Scheuerman (Manx) on October 29, 2013 at 17:23

I was thinking along the lines of a cloned My Page, JJ. Not sure if it's possible, but sellers could have their My Page and a My Sales Page...or something of the sort. Then it's just as simple as checking a profile to find out what some have for sale.Simplistic, unobtrusive and to the point.

Dave...can't say as I disagree with you, my friend. Hopefully there is a happy medium, but I must also say, if it can't be found, I'd rather lose the sales pitches than lose the community. You are a prime example of what I would like to see us avoid. Driving off members due to annoyance would be a tragic thing. No offence meant to any dealers/makers...but I cling to my belief of community first, profit...well...much further down the list. After all...we are iKnifeCOLLECTOR, not iKnifeSeller.

Got some sharp people on this site, let's see what kind of ideas pop up. Would be nice if we could keep everyone relatively happy. 

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on October 29, 2013 at 17:50

Thank you all for this, it is exactly what I wanted.  Brainstorming on how not to have iKnifeCollector become iKnifeseller.  To let you all know how serious I am about this I have removed 4 people this month because they either sent out an unsolicited  email, would put their ebay listing under their pics or dropped a sales pitch in the chat.  They are permanently banned.  I have sent out SEVERAL other private emails stating they will not be warned again. 

That is why we are having this discussion LOL.  Have any of you noticed the red banner at the top of each page?

Alexander, this has nothing to do with the makers that simply share with us their creations, are contributing members of the site and simply state under the pics what the knife is.  You are the perfect example of the perfect maker for us.  You tell us about your newest creations, you share with us what your doing but you do not throw your sales at the members. I would like to be able to offer all of you like that a place to connect with members searching for knives.  Thank you and can you teach some others for me please?

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FeaturedPermalink Reply by Craig Henry on October 29, 2013 at 18:00

Thanks Jan! Yes, I've seen the red banner at the top.

I think this is a discussion that has to be had, now that iKC is bigger and busier than ever.

Lots of good thoughts!

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on October 29, 2013 at 18:54

Everyone has ideas on this and I think by discussing it, the right answers will come out of it. I enjoy, knives made by some of our members and for them to have them for sale is the nature of our hobby. We must realize though, that for most of us, this is a hobby and for some it is a business. Miss Jan, will sort out the good from the bad, I know it.

  We have heard from our collectors and only one knife maker [Alex], I wish that some of the makers and distributors, would chime in on this. Let our Boss Lady know ya'lls opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on October 29, 2013 at 19:03

Well I have been a member here longer than most and I am less affected by knifemakers posting or taking part in discussions or posting pictures. When they start suggesting knives or pricing that's not good and our rules do state that is not allowed and must be handled through email. For the most part everyone has done a good job of abiding by the rules but every so often something comes up and we deal with that usually one on one and the ones who don't like that go somewhere else like Facebook and do their business. For the most part Dealers are the same and we have had some good some bad over time.

Here is the main thing that bothers me and I am actively looking for a solution. Individuals who come in to iKC, take part in absolutely no discussion, like no other pictures, fail to participate in our community at all, make no friends, don't convey any knowledge...nada. Strictly a For Sale Ad and that's it.

I would love to know what to do with these folks. Ban them, delete them, charge them for advertising before the post...I mean who is going to buy anything from someone you don't know without some kind of buyer protection. (None of which we offer) Most are unfriendly and some don't even respond when a question is actually asked causing that person to believe its dead.

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