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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on April 12, 2020 at 20:26

Peter, 

It is bad and yes they are using refrig trucks as temp morgues but no mass graves.  The reason they are being stored is so they can have the funerals when this is over.

This is how we look right now

New York

Confirmed 188,694

Recovered 17,089

Deaths 9,385

United States

Confirmed 559,409

Recovered 33,115

Deaths 22,071

 

So it is bad but it is not anything we can't recover from.  We continue to pray for those that have lost loved one and those that have loved ones struggling right now, world wide.  How is Germany holding up?  We are not getting much info outside our own country and lockdowns right now

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Permalink Reply by Peter Wagner on April 13, 2020 at 12:39

Hello Jan,
thanks for the information. Here in Germany a lot of panic is spread through the media to intimidate people. There must not be more than two people together outside and you have to keep a distance of 1.5 meters if you meet someone. The police make controls and you are sometimes monitored with drones so that no more people gather. There are also penalties to be paid. The small companies have big problems and many people also because they lose their jobs or get little money. Prices are rising, and toilet paper is really hard to buy in Germany, as is flour and pasta. People are all crazy, we're fine. I add the current figures from Germany and also the fines catalog from my state. I wish you health and happiness
Pit

Germany
Infected 123,016 deaths 2,799

Corona fine catalog for Thuringia

Minimum distance of 1.5 m not observed 100 € each person involved
Gathering of more than 2 people in public € 200 each person involved
illegal participation in events, meetings, demonstrations, etc. Meetings € 400 each participant
... unlawful organization of such a meeting € 1,000 organizer or managing director
Participation of more people than at a permitted gathering within the framework of a funeral service or wedding allowed 60 € each unauthorized participant
Out-of-home meals and drinks within a radius of less than 10 m of a catering establishment consumes 150 € customer
Clearance space in stores not complied with € 150 customer
Violation of a ban on visits to clinics, care facilities and the like. Facilities 150 € visitors
... as a under 16 year old, with respiratory infections or returning from a risk area € 400 visitor
Hygiene and infection protection requirements for a permissible meeting not met 1,000 € organizer or managing director
... 400 € each participant participated in such a meeting
in companies and other open facilities the required safety precautions have not been observed
Organization of a sports event or other gatherings in sports facilities, leisure facilities and the like Facilities 2.500 € person responsible
... participated in such a violation 150 € each participant
Unlawful conduct of a public event in hospitals, preventive, rehabilitation or care facilities € 2,500 responsible, organizer or management
... illegal participation 400 € each participant
Violation of entry bans in workshops for the disabled € 200 per person
illegal operation or opening of ...
... bars, cafés, pubs, clubs and more. Facilities € 4,000 responsible
... gyms, swimming pools, saunas and more. Facilities € 4,000 responsible
... adult education centers, music schools, libraries and more. Facilities 2.500 € person responsible
... clubs, sports facilities, animal parks, playgrounds etc. Facilities 2.500 € person responsible
... gambling halls or casinos € 5,000 responsible
... dance pleasure 5.000 € person in charge
... fairs, specialty markets, betting shops and more. Facilities 5,000 € person responsible
... amusement and prostitution sites (including vehicles and events) € 5,000 responsible
... family centers, holiday resorts and Facilities 2.500 € person responsible
... multi-generation houses 2.500 € person in charge
... senior citizen clubs, senior citizen workplaces, youth clubs, youth leisure centers and. Facilities 2.500 € person responsible
... day care facilities (except: emergency care or assisted living arrangements open to assisted and supervisors) € 4,000 responsible
... Advice centers responsible for € 2,500
... women's centers € 2,500 responsible
... retail shops, factory shops or direct sales outlets that must not be open € 4,000 owner or management
... weekly market stalls with an inadmissible range of goods € 1,000 market stall operators
... service, craft or accommodation companies, unless there is an exception 4,000 € owner or management
... coach trips 4,000 € owner or management
... provision of services without proof of medical necessity or without adequate protective measures € 1,500 service provider
... catering facilities for the public 4,000 € owner or management
... pregnancy conflict counseling centers (opening to public) € 1,000 management, owner or management
... permitted catering facilities for public traffic without compliance with the safety precautions € 1,000 owner or management
... canteens, cafeterias for people other than employees 3,000 € owner or management
... canteens, cafeterias and other facilities open to the public in hospitals, preventive and rehabilitation facilities € 2,500 responsible, owner or management
... gastronomic facilities of overnight accommodations for people other than overnight guests € 2,500 owner or management
issued conditions for protective measures not met € 1,500 management, owner or management
Customers not in stores

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FeaturedPermalink Reply by dead_left_knife_guy on April 13, 2020 at 16:35

There's so much bad here though, Peter.  Don't forget that U.S. healthcare is typically tied to an employer, & we're experiencing record unemployment levels. 

But frankly the illness sounds potentially horrifying, suffocating people from their own immune responses.  And when you die from it, you don't get to say good-bye -- no hugs, no funerals -- just gone, behind a veil of plastic.

Which is why prevention is really the key, at least until we have reliable antibody testing & reliable vaccinations that are free & available in all areas for everyone.

So everyone, please be kind to each other by being safe & staying away from anyone not in your household!  Some of the curves are starting to flatten -- which means what we're doing is working!

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on April 13, 2020 at 18:45

Cannot overstate this !!!

Reply by dead_left_knife_guy 2 hours ago  So everyone, please be kind to each other by being safe & staying away from anyone not in your household!  Some of the curves are starting to flatten -- which means what we're doing is working!

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