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Comment by Billy Oneale on September 12, 2011 at 22:08

That is a very good idea , Toby. There must be something somewhere with all the numbers.Robert, I ordered the AG Russell catalog to hopefully read this article. I get a few RR that have some issues, but the majority are well built. I also like the Marbles  brand which is a little more expensive than RR , but made in the same factory. The reason I like the Marbles brand is that you will not see most of their handle materials on any thing else, And the build is a very well built knife. A lot of the imports are well built if a person will take the time to really look them over and try them instead of just passing all of the imports off as junk. There is an unbelievable amount of junk knives that are imported. As I have said before, I wish everything could be USA made, but it just isn't going to happen until The Companies can find ways to be competitive with the importers. Queen and Bear and Son are finding ways to do that. You can also find a really good buy on Case knives for under $40.00 also. I have seen some Queen delrin knives sell for around $24.00 and the same can be said for Bear & Son. I will buy what I like, be it a German, Chinese  or USA made knife, Preferably German or USA made, but for dollar and quality you can find a better deal than a RR. I also agree with Jan, I don't buy the RR because I think it will become a collector item worth a lot of money. I buy them because I like the way it looks and performs, beside that, if I lose one it will not be as big a loss like it would be for me to lose one of my Queen, GEC or Case knives.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on September 12, 2011 at 20:40

somewhere I have PDF files for RR up to the 400 numbers. It used to be on the sharpfans site.

 

I could be the start of an effort of devoted fans to get the whole line up in place.  We could start an excel sheet and just start filling it in.

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on September 12, 2011 at 19:44

Thanks Miss Jan, your input helps calm the water. We are all in this for the fun and in a few years we will all probably be laughing about it. I hope so any way.

Comment by Jan Carter on September 12, 2011 at 19:31

Guys I absolutley agree.  Will RR go up in value?  Some will eventually but if you are collecting for the love of the knife that is not always a consideration.  If you are not spending a lot of money up front for the knife then its future value is not as much of a consideration as if it were 300.00 up front.  I would like to se a pattern number list though, Craig I will ask for one under my facebook and keep checking to see if we get a list or led to where they may be one.  I dont know that the guys at SMKW ever dreamed that folks would be saying they are just as happy with their RR as they are with their Case knives but it says alot for the caliber of the collectors here that we were willing to give the knife a chance and be fair in evaluating it.

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on September 12, 2011 at 18:54

I just posted it on his AG Russell group. Check it out. You need one of his catalogs anyway.lol

Featured Comment by Craig Henry on September 12, 2011 at 17:35

I just sent for his latest catalog....I haven't had one for a while. I'm anxious to read his letter.

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on September 12, 2011 at 8:48

I'll try get help to do that.

Comment by Alexander Noot on September 12, 2011 at 8:25

Robert, it would be nice if you could place that letter here sometime. I don't get the A.G. Russell Catalogue because they don't ship it outside of the US. But I'd love to have a read of it.

In Memoriam Comment by Robert Burris on September 9, 2011 at 17:12

Y'all need to read Mr. AG Russell's letter in his Late Fall catalog, it kinda puts things into prospective on the China knife industry.  I started a little talk on his group here earlier today.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on September 9, 2011 at 9:36

I think Billy pretty well nailed it.  I also would like to buy American Made but it is hard for me to compare a Case and Rough Rider side by side and then look at the price tag and not go with the Rough Rider.  The F&F of a Case is not really that much better and the quality of the Case Tru-sharp steel may actually be less.  Yet the the price is two to five times higher!

 

As it is I'm left to just collecting  the peach seed jigged amber bone Case Knives and if RR produced a similar handle, I would buy it instead.

 

Will RR be worth more in the future?  I think some will go up in value once they are discontinued. Others not so much.

 

As for Steel Warriors, I've heard lots of good things about them but Tom O'Dell and co.  and Cutlery Corner has turned me off to almost anything Frost.   Still,  A friend gave me several Steel Warriors and I have to say they are  very good.    As good as Rough Riders?  That will be a long argument clouded by personal bias.  I will say,  I really like the Crocodile Jigged bone Peanut and occasionally look on eBay for other Steel Warriors in that jig pattern.   

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