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In Memoriam Comment by D ale on June 17, 2011 at 0:48

Here's a sleeveboard whittler I carried for a couple years .. GREAT STEEL

then stored for a couple more yrs .. only to gas out on me

she was a beaut in her day .. note the damage .. it could probably be cleaned up w/ a new set of scales

the stamping combined with the celluloid puts it @ mid/late 40's for production

 

Comment by Jim Child on June 15, 2011 at 10:22

@Toby -- you asked

Does the et al, include Ulster and Imperial?

I guess the fact that a week's passed and I have not answered your question speaks to the extent of my confusion. I've always had a lot of trouble getting my head wrapped around the Schrade history -- so many companies, trademarks and stamps!!

As you're aware, I've been working on a graphical Schrade timeline -- figure I might grok it better if I can SEE it. ...but in the mean time??

Although the "company paths" of Ulster and Imperial eventually crossed with "Schrade", both companies had long histories totally separate from "Schrade".

Ulster Knife Co. was born as a re-org of the Ellenville Co-Operative Knife Co. in 1875. And that company had nothing to do with Schrade until at least 1946 when Albert & Henry Baer bought "Schrade" and made it a division of Imperial Knife Associated Companies along with the existing division Ulster.

Imperial Knife Co. was formed in Providence, RI in 1916 and, as we saw above, didn't intersect with "Schrade" until they acquired "Schrade" as a "division" in 1946.

Looking at the above I'd have to say that "No, Et Al. should not include Ulster or Imperial." From the little I've studied so far I can't see anything like where maybe the entity "Schrade" was making knives and stamping them "Ulster" ...or even vice versa.

Larry V.'s website provides a few different "company histories" -- that's where I'm doing most of research.

I'll welcome any info, thoughts or criticisms anyone might provide.

In Memoriam Comment by D ale on June 8, 2011 at 3:58

Jim .. I was unable to locate the already dis assembled ones .. so started the discussion above instead ..

George Schrade PRESTO ... an inside look.

.. based on a unit given to me by fellow member Micheal Kelly Sr  .. I think we can have some fun with this :D

Comment by Tobias Gibson on June 7, 2011 at 16:43

Does the et al, include Ulster and Imperial?

Comment by Jim Child on June 7, 2011 at 14:00

@ D ale...I will be interested in seeing the innards of your "dis assembled units", but I feel bad. I really only wanted a rundown on how one of these "push button" knives operates. I'm guessing I must be close in the 1, 2, 3, 4 of my previous post or you would have corrected me.

 

"...on the farm." I'm jealous. One of the NYC TV stations broadcast the "Modern Farmer" on Sat. and Sun. mornings at 6:30. They'd show 4H kids' projects -- my Mom couldn't tell me why there was no 4H in suburban NJ. 4H looked way better than Cub Scouts.

Ft. Monmouth in 1975. Have you seen the "Jersey Shore" reality show??  :-( By 1975 I'd been through my "Jersey Surfer Boy" phase, gotten married and me and Pam were living in London while I learned how to be a photographer. ...and then I was an insurance broker in Manhattan (living in NJ again) and then, finally, I moved to Maine and became a farmer.  LOL 

In Memoriam Comment by D ale on June 7, 2011 at 11:29

I was with you there .. late 50's early 60's .. 'n am still a kid.  Mastered that wrist flick @ an early age .. but, on the farm .. didn't make it to Jersey till late '75 .. Ft. Monmouth.

     Jim said:        When I was a kid (late 1950's, early '60's) .........

In Memoriam Comment by D ale on June 7, 2011 at 11:02

@ Jim .. I've got a couple dis assembled units .. let me take some pics & see what I can come up with .. D ale

Comment by Jim Child on June 7, 2011 at 10:36

Hey D ale!  Trust Bernard Levine to have DETAILED drawings available to the rest of us.

I should have been more specific about what I was hoping to learn. How do you make the knife do its thing?

1) do you have to unlock (the slider?) before

2) pushing the button makes the blade swing out fully -- does the

3) blade lock open?

4) Do you have to release the slider to enable folding the blade back into the handle?

When I was a kid (late 1950's, early '60's -- switchblades were what "juvenile delinquents" (a/k/a "JD's") carried. No one not involved with gang fights (a/k/a "rumbles") would have had any use for such a knife.

I lived in NW New Jersey where we all knew (somehow?) that switchblades were illegal. My best friend had what we called a "gravity knife". It looked like a switchblade but had no spring-assisted opening. We had to practice for hours to develop just the right wrist flick to swing the dagger blade fully open into its locked open position.

In Memoriam Comment by D ale on June 7, 2011 at 9:07

Re: part #'s 40 & 42.

In Memoriam Comment by D ale on June 7, 2011 at 9:06

.. go here and then scroll down to the patent drawings.

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