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For those who like to carv/whittle something. We will talk about all knife types for whittling, about types of wood and types of whittling.

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Whittlins

Started by J.J. Smith III. Last reply by Kenneth W. Hill Nov 30, 2020. 53 Replies

If you enjoy whittlin and carving, why not show some of your work. Post your pics here...Continue

Next whittling knife.

Started by John Bamford. Last reply by Lewis E.Ward Jul 9, 2020. 9 Replies

Although I am tempted by the latest GEC folder for my new whittling knife, it certainly is a great looking knife, I want to try a fixed blade for a change.I have narrowed my choice down to three,…Continue

whittlers,large grip.

Started by richard m bissell III. Last reply by richard m bissell III Sep 27, 2019. 2 Replies

If you have the hand for them, there are sunfish size, whittler pattern knives out there which are new made and carry the brand names Winchester and Kabar.// They can be a bit pricey however they…Continue

Oar Carving Knife / Single Locker (modified Queen Cutlery 41-L, Copperhead)

Started by J.J. Smith III. Last reply by Tom Peterson Dec 20, 2018. 35 Replies

   Kaylin and I went to the Charlotte Woodcarvers Club, annual show, this past weekend, and I was fortunate to see Robert Stadtlander, from Stadtlander Woodcarvings.  I was hoping to find an…Continue

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FUNDAMENTALS OF ART

The Fundamentals of Drawing listed above are useful for wood carvers to consider these same fundamentals in the process of designing and shaping of any carving project. OBSERVATION ~ Observation begins with imagination and then study of the subject to blend in with imagination to form a mental image of the carving project. As the subject is in the process of being carved, observation continues to guide the process. COMPOSITION ~ Composition in carving is when all the different elements of the carving are put together to create a desired effect. Does the carving look like a decorated telephone pole and is it a figure that shows a sense of movement and tells a story in its pose? LINE QUALITY ~ Line quality are visual lines that outline the carving as if tracing the lines that are viewed while looking at the completed carving project. Are there lines to move and follow the normal curves of movement and action or are there too many straight and wooden lines that do not bend away from having a boxy look. For example, the front of the chin bone of leg is straight while the back of the leg chin bone is the calf muscles of the leg that has a curved line. Curving lines in a carving are more eye catching that straight lines as in a straight arm along the side of the body is not as interesting as an arm bent at the elbow and a hand holding an object. SHAPE AND FORM ~ In carving, the first process is the “Shape Up the Basic Form” of the subject to become a silhouette that will guide the detail portion of the carving process. “Form follows function and detail follow form,” making the Shape and Form essential in the carving process. PROPORTION ~ Proportions are what keeps the carving balanced for if a section of the carving is out of proportion the overall effect falls apart. Proportions help is keeping the design honest and true to its intended purpose. Even in caricature carvings which exaggerates proportions for an added effect, such exaggerations must be balanced with the rest of the proportions. The Rule of Three for Facial proportions in three divisions are: Hairline to Eyebrow; Eyebrow to Nose Tip; Nose Tip to Bottom of Chin. The Rule of Three for Body Proportions in three divisions are: Shoulder to Waist; Waist to Mid Knees; Mid Knees to Bottom of Feet. Using these two rule of proportions as a visual guide will guide the carving process both in Observation and in Shape and Form set up. PERSPECTIVE ~ Perspective in carving is the ability create depth on a flat surface or create a 3-D effect to amplify a flat surface. Relief carving utilizes Perspective more than a carving in the round. However, in carving in the round, there may be areas where perspective comes into play to amplify depth in a shallow area. For examples texturing clothing with wrinkles and folds or the row of buttons on a shirt or the belt lace through the belt loops of the pants. Shallow cuts of stair step fashion can create a depth of perspective in a relief sort of way. One definition states “the art of representing three-dimensional object on a two-dimensional surface so as to give the right impression of their height. width, depth, and position in relation to each other.” SHADING ~ Shading is the technique used to create the illusions of depth and volume in a drawing or painting that involves varying the darkness and lightness in colors to represent light and shadow. For carving in wood, shading can be accomplished by varying the depts of cuts in designated areas of the carving subject to create depth and texture that contribute to darkness and lightness that implies “Texture is Color.” Consider this effect as being applied to a carving that will be finished in a monochrome (one color) natural finish. Of course, if the carving is to be painted with multicolor, then Shading would enhance the carved texturing. This discussing of Fundamental Art terms as describing drawing and paint art has been applied to the wood carving process has been only a brief comparison. A more extensive understanding of these fundamentals can be researched on the internet by listing each one in the search box by using each term and adding “in Art” to the search. Any small tid bit of information car enhance an understanding the enhances the carving process. LINE QUALITY ~ Line quality are visual lines that outline the carving as if tracing the lines that are viewed while looking at the completed carving project. Are there lines to move and follow the normal curves of movement and action or are there too many straight and wooden lines that do not bend away from having a boxy look. For example, the front of the chin bone of leg is straight while the back of the leg chin bone is the calf muscles of the leg that has a curved line. Curving lines in a carving are more eye catching that straight lines as in a straight arm along the side of the body is not as interesting as an arm bent at the elbow and a hand holding an object. SHAPE AND FORM ~ In carving, the first process is the “Shape Up the Basic Form” of the subject to become a silhouette that will guide the detail portion of the carving process. “Form follows function and detail follow form,” making the Shape and Form essential in the carving process. PROPORTION ~ Proportions are what keeps the carving balanced for if a section of the carving is out of proportion the overall effect falls apart. Proportions help is keeping the design honest and true to its intended purpose. Even in caricature carvings which exaggerates proportions for an added effect, such exaggerations must be balanced with the rest of the proportions. The Rule of Three for Facial proportions in three divisions are: Hairline to Eyebrow; Eyebrow to Nose Tip; Nose Tip to Bottom of Chin. The Rule of Three for Body Proportions in three divisions are: Shoulder to Waist; Waist to Mid Knees; Mid Knees to Bottom of Feet. Using these two rule of proportions as a visual guide will guide the carving process both in Observation and in Shape and Form set up. PERSPECTIVE ~ Perspective in carving is the ability create depth on a flat surface or create a 3-D effect to amplify a flat surface. Relief carving utilizes Perspective more than a carving in the round. However, in carving in the round, there may be areas where perspective comes into play to amplify depth in a shallow area. For examples texturing clothing with wrinkles and folds or the row of buttons on a shirt or the belt lace through the belt loops of the pants. Shallow cuts of stair step fashion can create a depth of perspective in a relief sort of way. One definition states “the art of representing three-dimensional object on a two-dimensional surface so as to give the right impression of their height. width, depth, and position in relation to each other.” SHADING ~ Shading is the technique used to create the illusions of depth and volume in a drawing or painting that involves varying the darkness and lightness in colors to represent light and shadow. For carving in wood, shading can be accomplished by varying the depts of cuts in designated areas of the carving subject to create depth and texture that contribute to darkness and lightness that implies “Texture is Color.” Consider this effect as being applied to a carving that will be finished in a monochrome (one color) natural finish. Of course, if the carving is to be painted with multicolor, then Shading would enhance the carved texturing. This discussing of Fundamental Art terms as describing drawing and paint art has been applied to the wood carving process has been only a brief comparison. A more extensive understanding of these fundamentals can be researched on the internet by listing each one in the search box by using each term and adding “in Art” to the search. Any small tid bit of information car enhance an understanding the enhances the carving process.

BE SHARP AND NEVER DULL ~ Part 1

This manicure knife was rescued from a flea market in the early 1980’s as part of the Wood Bee Carver’s pursuit of suitable knives that could be modified into a carving tool. Even though one half of the scissors’ blade was missing this novelty knife invited an interest to pursue its usefulness. Beside the scissor […]

HALF PINT~ Bunk House Five

Six-inch-tall cowpokes carved as the Bunk House Five were carved in August, 2024 and now have been carved as the three-inch-tall Half Pint versions.  Six-inch-tall figures are carved in the one-inch scale of an inch equals a foot.  Half Pint figures are carved in the half inch scale equals a foot making them half sized […]

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In Memoriam
Comment by D ale on February 17, 2018 at 20:36

I feel the same way about certain models .. one manufacturer just excels. Others do a "good" job ..but.. one excels. I like lock-back whittlers ..but.. I've seen some ugly ones too.

Comment by J.J. Smith III 2 minutes ago

It may be the "Knife Guy" in me, but they're downright ugly.

Comment by Jan Carter on February 17, 2018 at 20:36

JJ, 

I agree on the Flexcut, just ugly.  Hey I know where there is a 2 blade that has been used and could take a trip to SC and back !

Comment by J.J. Smith III on February 17, 2018 at 20:26

I'm sure it's not an unreasonable figure, Dale, but I'm just relaying information.

I'm not sure what the relationship was between Stadtlander and Queen.  I do know that the Oar Carver's filled a void between Carver's that liked to carve with a pocket knife as opposed to a regular carving knife.   Flexcut knives are an option, but I simply hate them.

It may be the "Knife Guy" in me, but they're downright ugly.

Comment by J.J. Smith III on February 17, 2018 at 20:18

This one probably won't get much use, Ron.  I use one of the single lockers (because I have 2) and it's sweet.  If I ever get the opportunity to find another version II, I'll jump on it and give it a whirl.

Still, the seahorse is my go to knife, for carving.


In Memoriam
Comment by D ale on February 17, 2018 at 19:52

Thanks JJ.

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I also contacted A.G. Russell's firm & made them aware of the situation. I've seen similar (single-blade models) go through A.G.s inventory over the years. i.e. he already has a manufacturer tooled up & ready to go. The ramp up time might be long w/o commitments similar to those of his current quote. i.e. 500 pcs min & 5K set up fees.
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Frankly .. having worked in the steel fab industry .. those are not bad terms. For instance .. fabricating an "Oar Version II" would require a minimum of 4 sets of tooling .. 1 for each blade .. 1 for the frame .. 1 for the back-spring. So the setup fee is distributed among 4 different sets of tooling operations. Further .. no one's going schedule press time ..&.. only run 100 parts. I just don't see that happening. Running the parts could take a whopping 12 minutes ..BUT.. that press-line is down for 3 hrs. Setting up the new die. Changing out the material. Setting up the material feed system. Alignment of everything as an interactive system. That's an hr & 15 minutes .. easy. Same thing on the other side .. removal of die & material & prep for a new run of .. something/anything. And .. that leaves up to 30 min run time to punch out the required blanks.
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Then there's grinding & tempering of the blades .. assembly .. etc ...............
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SO0oo .. 500 parts min & 5K set-up fees is really not that bad. Hopefully .. he could get some decent terms i.e. 1/3 up-fnt .. 1/3 upon completion of some pre-agreed upon production steps (often half way ..but.. define "half-way") .. the final 1/3 upon completion, delivery, & QC acceptance.

Comment by Ron Cooper on February 17, 2018 at 19:29

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J.J,

Knowing how you're a fan of the Seahorse, as I am, how does this beauty feel in your hand when using the big Wharnie blade? Like you, I also like the way the Seahorse blade is angled. I also like the way the Seahorse handle is tapered. 

I suppose it's kind of an apples-oranges comparison, but how does this straight-angle, canoe-handled, Oar Carver feel compared to the off-angle, curve-tapered, Case Seahorse handle? 

Regardless of your answer, I know those pits in your neighborhood are quivering in terror! That's certainly a right-sharp looking Queen beauty ya got there, my friend!

Comment by J.J. Smith III on February 17, 2018 at 17:06

I did get a chance, Jan.

I passed Dales's suggestion to check with AG Russell,  though he's not having any luck elsewhere.

He did say someone had said that they could do one, with a commitment to buy 500, outright, and with a $5,000.00 set up fee.

Comment by Jan Carter on February 17, 2018 at 13:53

JJ did you get a chance to speak with Robert?  Is he having any luck finding a builder?

Comment by J.J. Smith III on February 17, 2018 at 13:08

I was indeed lucky, Jan.

If I would have been 2 minutes later, it would have been gone.  

Comment by Jan Carter on February 17, 2018 at 12:40

oooowhee! Now that is a pretty carver!  Congrats!

 
 
 

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