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Permalink Reply by Jack Haskins, Jr. on August 26, 2013 at 14:41

I would love to know the detailed answers to your questions myself.  I have used Shapton glass stones but not the pro series.  I know several forum friends who have used them and I've never heard a bad word about the Shapton pro series stone.  You may want to ask your questions on the CKTG forum.  You can find it under the resourses tab.  This site has the best quality sharpening products I've seen on any knife or sharpening related web site.  They even worked a deal with the Shapton folks getting them to cut the stones for use with the Edge Pro sharpener.

Here is what I think of the Shapton glass stones.  They are absolutely the best performing stones I've ever used.  Keep in mine I haven't tried a LOT of different stones but some.  The Shapton glass are the only higher quality expensive stones I've used.  Starting with the 8k stone you will get a mirror finish.  You will be able to see some scratches if you magnify the bevel image but to the naked eye it'll be mirror.  However you will have needed to prepare the bevel properly using the coarser stones.  Remove ALL scratches left with the 1k stone by using a 4k stone for example.  This holds true for any stone though so forget I said it. lol  The Shapton glass stones cut VERY fast.  You will have no problem re-profiling knife edges of blade steel as hard as Rc 65 with the 500 grit stone.  Then get the 1k, 4, and 8k.  That's just a suggestion that the guys on CKTG may disagree with.  If they do, listen to them, NOT me.  They know far more.  These stones also don't dish or wear very fast compared to other stones.  They will last longer.  I have a set for the Edge Pro of 500, 1k, 2k, 6k and 8k.  These are great.  I also had (and sold) a 2k and 6k bench stone.  I sold them only because when using bench stones I wanted stones you could use dry.  So I now use DMT and ceramic stones.  I don't know why the glass is on the bottom of the stone.

Are these stones worth the money.  My opinion is as far as performance yes they are.  They will produce a much prettier, smoother razor edge than a lot of other stones on the market.  Are they worth the money for the edge a particular individual (you, me, etc.) wants?  Individual decision.  Bear this in mind.  You are not buying a sharpening stone.  You are paying for the ability to produce one of the best knife edges possible.  For the supurb edges the stones can produce the person doing the sharpening needs the skill to do it.  But these stones will produce hair whittling edges.  I've done it.  If I can do it anyone can or will be able to with some practice.  I hope you get better answers concerning the pro series.

Another thought that I've had for saving a little money.  Why buy expensive coarse grit stones?  Why not profile the knife edge with inexpensive coarse grit stones then use the Shapton glass (or pro) starting with a 2k stone.  I believe the 2k stone is considered a good grit for the average edge with a little toothiness.  Leaves a nice finish on the bevel also but not mirror at all. 

Good luck with more info.

Jack

Permalink Reply by Stephen L. Corley on August 26, 2013 at 14:52

Jack, you're right about using less expensive stone for the ground work. 

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on September 26, 2013 at 13:54

Here is a good explanation between the Shapton HR Stones and the Shapton HC Stones. Sounds like the pure white is the stone for knife sharpening using today's steels.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Re-cMNwWw

Permalink Reply by Jack Haskins, Jr. on September 27, 2013 at 7:10

Good video Steve.  I was worried though because I ordered an 8k stone from a guy on ebay and he had two stones listed for some grits.  One was 8000 and one was 8000S.  The 8000 is the one I ordered and it is the white one.  The "S" he said stands for a softer bonding agent.  Not 100% sure what that means exactly but I'm pretty sure it's the grey looking stone.  I still don't have the stone.  The wait from this guy is about a month.  His prices are cheaper though.  I didn't know how long I was going to have to wait when I placed the order.  So if anyone wants one of these stones you may want to confirm this but I think the gritt "with an S" is the one NOT to order.  I just hope when I do get it it's the correct one. 

 Jack

Steve Hanner said:

Here is a good explanation between the Shapton HR Stones and the Shapton HC Stones. Sounds like the pure white is the stone for knife sharpening using today's steels.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Re-cMNwWw

KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Dave Taylor on September 27, 2013 at 18:44

The glass backing on the Shapton  stones is there, as I understand it, to provide rigidity and flatness over the life of the stone.  The glass is quite thick and does its intended job very well.

 

There has been quite a bit of discussion pertaining to Shapton stones recently.  I attempted to join in at one point but got the feeling I was intruding on a conversation so I did not pursue the conversation.  I have a rather complete set of the Shapton Glass Stones that I would part with at a substantial discount if anyone might be interested.  I bought the set and used them two or three times and obtained excellent results with them.  They are great stones for free hand sharpening.

The only reason I am considering selling the set of Shapton Glass Stones is that I now have an EdgePro that I like, so I have no further use for the Shapton stones.  The set of Shapton Glass Stones are in essentially new condition and are available if anyone is interested.

If there is an interest shown I will list the stones by grit.  They are all as new and in their original boxes.

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on September 27, 2013 at 19:20

Sure Dave would love to hear what you have, by grit and accessory if you have them. No guarantee someone will like them enough to buy but who knows and I have my eye on a few my self and am always interested.  or send me an email if you are more comfortable.

KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Dave Taylor on September 27, 2013 at 20:43

Here are the five Shapton Glass Stones I have for sale.  All are near new, (used 3 times), and in their original boxes.

50102  #500 grit

50202  #1000 grit

50302  #2000 grit

50103  #4000 grit

50203  #8000 grit

Chefs Knives To Go lists these five Shaprton Glass Stones at a total of $345.00 plus shipping.

My price for all five stones is $225.00, plus $15.00 UPS shipping CONUS, for a total of $240.00.

I can accept payment in Money Order (preferred), or check.  Check to be held for clearance prior to shipping.

Thank you for your interest.

Permalink Reply by Jack Haskins, Jr. on September 27, 2013 at 21:07

I wish you luck in selling these stones.  It's an outstanding bargain for whoever buys them.  If you don't get them sold here put them on the bladeforums.com.  They have a selling and/or trading section.  At the price you are asking I think they will be gone in about 5 minutes.  Or there are lots of people with knives for trade if you wanted to go that route.  The grit progression is perfect.  If I didn't have all my sharpening stone needs met I'd be all over these if I had the extra cash.  No one knows me personally but this really is a great deal for some great stones.

Jack

Dave Taylor said:

Here are the five Shapton Glass Stones I have for sale.  All are near new, (used 3 times), and in their original boxes.

50102  #500 grit

50202  #1000 grit

50302  #2000 grit

50103  #4000 grit

50203  #8000 grit

Chefs Knives To Go lists these five Shaprton Glass Stones at a total of $345.00 plus shipping.

My price for all five stones is $225.00, plus $15.00 UPS shipping CONUS, for a total of $240.00.

I can accept payment in Money Order (preferred), or check.  Check to be held for clearance prior to shipping.

Thank you for your interest.

KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Dave Taylor on September 27, 2013 at 21:11

The Shapton Glass Stones have been sold.

Thank you very much for your interest.

Much appreciated.

Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on September 27, 2013 at 21:11

Well it did not take 5 minutes but less than 24 ..not too bad...

Jack Haskins, Jr. said:

I wish you luck in selling these stones.  It's an outstanding bargain for whoever buys them.  If you don't get them sold here put them on the bladeforums.com.  They have a selling and/or trading section.  At the price you are asking I think they will be gone in about 5 minutes.  Or there are lots of people with knives for trade if you wanted to go that route.  The grit progression is perfect.  If I didn't have all my sharpening stone needs met I'd be all over these if I had the extra cash.  No one knows me personally but this really is a great deal for some great stones.

Jack

Dave Taylor said:

Here are the five Shapton Glass Stones I have for sale.  All are near new, (used 3 times), and in their original boxes.

50102  #500 grit

50202  #1000 grit

50302  #2000 grit

50103  #4000 grit

50203  #8000 grit

Chefs Knives To Go lists these five Shaprton Glass Stones at a total of $345.00 plus shipping.

My price for all five stones is $225.00, plus $15.00 UPS shipping CONUS, for a total of $240.00.

I can accept payment in Money Order (preferred), or check.  Check to be held for clearance prior to shipping.

Thank you for your interest.

KnifeMakerPermalink Reply by Dave Taylor on September 27, 2013 at 21:23

24 minutes wasn't too shabby at that.  After all it is Friday night, with Knives Live an' all........

They went to a good friend and a good home so that makes me happy.  Win/win.

Permalink Reply by Jack Haskins, Jr. on September 27, 2013 at 21:25

Good deal Dave.  I'm curious if you went with the Shapton glass stones for the EP or if now which did you get?  None of my business of course.  I have the Shapton glass 1x6" stones for the EP in the grits you sold plus a 6k and a 16k (just got this one).  I got the 6k on my first purchase of these stones because they were out of the 8k.  Impatience is a problem I have.  Nothing wrong with the 6k stone but now that I have the others it is sort of not needed.  Oh well. :)  

Dave Taylor said:

The Shapton Glass Stones have been sold.

Thank you very much for your interest.

Much appreciated.

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