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Home of the Rough Rider. RR offers all of the great knife patterns from the past. Quality and affordable, a rare product these days.

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Rough Rider

Although an Import Rough Rider Brand by Smoky Mountain Knife Works continues to get high marks as a favorite for collectors.

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Toothpick for trade

Started by Guy MEDFORD Dec 19, 2023. 0 Replies

I believe I have just about every known scale, bolster, and shield combo, but I want any old or new combinations out there. I generally have triplicate in many discontinued and some rare small…Continue

Great quality knives for the money!

Started by Ron Foster. Last reply by Fred Kemp Nov 8, 2021. 13 Replies

Many of the Rough Rider patterns I own are similar to some of the Case patterns I own. When comparing the quality, fit and finish these knives are a great value. What really makes them great is I…Continue

new to collecting

Started by Ralph West. Last reply by Jeremy B. Buchanan Mar 29, 2021. 6 Replies

I started collecting fixed blade knives at first and have about 30 from various companies, but once I got into Pocket knives I was hooked.  I have about 50 and Rough Rider is the cornerstone of my…Continue

A Question on The Stroke of Luck Series

Started by Ugly Old Guy. Last reply by Ugly Old Guy Jan 18, 2021. 3 Replies

In the "A Stroke of Luck" series, I have the RR1057 Large Stockman, RR1058 standard size Trapper, and RR1062 regular size Canoe.Does anyone know what the RR1059, RR1060, and RR1061 knives are?Since…Continue

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Comment by Billy Oneale on March 1, 2012 at 15:32

Toby, most of the Marbles I have are imports, but were still owned by Marbles. This was the first Marbles that I have bought since SMKW got the rights to the Marbles name, which happened a year or so ago when they went bankrupt. The knife is well made with good fit and finish and good snap. I didn't even see much light through the backsprings.

Comment by Billy Oneale on March 1, 2012 at 15:28

Robert, the cattle king was one of Marbles new lines.


In Memoriam
Comment by Robert Burris on March 1, 2012 at 9:24

Billy, who makes that cattle king, I sort of got lost between all the different companies. Looks like a Colt. Thats one ya'll left out and I think its made there to.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on March 1, 2012 at 8:29

Not Rough Riders but two of my favorite modern Marbles, the Fisherman's tool and the Fly Fisherman.  I think the Fly Fisherman is actually an old Case pattern, not sure.     But the cool thing about both, is currently there is onle one comapny making them.  And that is Marbles.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on March 1, 2012 at 6:10

How do you like the Cattle Knife, Billy?  I'm thinking about pickign that one up.  I also like they Scrimshaw series they're doing.   I might grab the one with the Raccoons on the handles.  Glad you like the toothpicks.  I keep asking when they'll be making more in the RR line, but the answer seems to be "Never".  I'm still debating on picking up a couple more of the Marbles large toothpicks but it just doesn't seem to be the same.  I like it better when the knife I get from Marbles is only branded by Marbles.  I think I'm a victim of knowledge.  Knowing both brands are made by the same company, in the same factory with the same quality control makes it hard for me to buy a more expensive knife simply because it has a different brand name stamped on it.

Comment by Billy Oneale on February 29, 2012 at 22:51

The brands are all made in the same place. I don't think SMKW would want to have to chase quality control on 3 or 4 different factories. It's all about the sale of knives and making money. As for most of the old Marbles before they went bankrupt, you won't find the same scales on other knives. And the MSA Marbles are getting harder to find. I did buy a Cattle Knife in stag bone the other day and it is basically a RR. here is a pic of it. I still like it even if it may be a RR in disguise. One correction to what I said, The Tortoise shell is the same as on other brands. That's a great looking collection of toothpicks, Toby. I really like the large toothpicks.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on February 29, 2012 at 14:40

You're correct, Robert.   When I realized the Marbles  5 inch toothpicks were overpriced Rough Riders.  I was upset.  Had there been significant differences in the knife, it would've been different.  Bottom line, is they just different colored bone handles and they have one in imitation tortoise shell.  The marbles knives are all exactly the same except the handle material.  There is more variety in the Rough Riders and they cost less.

I'm tempted to buy the Marbles toothpicks but when I see the price, it just irks me.  And then I kick myself.  Were talking a difference of $3-5!  Not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. 


In Memoriam
Comment by Robert Burris on February 29, 2012 at 14:07

It would not be so bad that one company makes 4 different brands but atleast they could be 4 different knives. You just have to take it as it comes and try to enjoy the knives. I try do a little homework on a knife before I buy it. I think you are studying them to.

Comment by Tobias Gibson on February 29, 2012 at 12:09

Robert, you are correct.  And while it is good business strategy to slap a more recognized brand name on a product it  kind of irks me.  An example is below.  Red bone "Marbles" and two Rough Riders.  The best of the three is also the least expensive.  The red bone Marbles came in an orange box and included a inexpensive black pouch.  I think it normally goes for around $17-20.  Has a marbles shield and blade etch.  The knife comes in different types of bone or plastic handles but all run about $5 more than the Rough Riders.  

As a person who likes the 5 inch toothpicks, It is kind of aggravating to see the same knife, being made and marketed under different brands and with "special collectors" packaging.  I just want the knife, not the fluff which causes needless mark-up.

The second knife is a RR and is part of the Long Rifle Series.  Normally goes for around $15-18 because of  the tin packaging.  Same knife, just in smooth bone with different shield and blade etch.

The third knife is the RR stroke of luck. Same profile, same quality as the other two, but with reverse frosted blade, different style bolsters, but still the same basic knife.   However it goes for $12-15.


In Memoriam
Comment by Robert Burris on February 29, 2012 at 11:40
Tobias, I think their made in the same factory and different names are put on different knives. It's the same knife just different names. Sales trick.
 
 
 

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